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HotshotBobbyW
29-06-2014, 04:17 PM
we have some sensitive souls on here and they became a little upset, sorry if offense caused by my opinion. Lets move on now ;-)

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 04:23 PM
I'll personally never move on while ever folk like you exist.

Please watch this video Hotshot.

Also can you please tell me what normal is? If you are normal I'm so, so thankful I'm not. - view external link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JBAYqx9uMM)

HotshotBobbyW
29-06-2014, 04:31 PM
I'll personally never move on while ever folk like you exist.



Bit OTT that but its your opinion, the point of the video is what exactly ? is it to prove there are idiots in the USA ? is it to prove your prowess at finding pointless Youtube videos ?

Please tell :D

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 04:48 PM
It's not OTT at all for the world to finally move on we need to find a way to get rid of ridiculous views like yours. Not an easy thing to do as you're clearly uneducable like a lot of folk.

The point is that nothings unnatural which the video explains very clearly, can't believe I had to explain it to you, proves how much of a cretin you are.

great_fire
29-06-2014, 05:04 PM
Sorry but "getting rid of ridiculous views" is totally fascistic and it the thing that I hate about the left, i.e. "you have the right to an opinion as long as you agree with me", which is ********, HSB is entitled to an opinion, left-wing authoritarian fascists can **** off.

millmoormagic
29-06-2014, 05:07 PM
[quote="great_fire", which is ********, HSB is entitled to an opinion, left-wing authoritarian fascists can **** off.[/quote]

bit weird seeing as though HSBW is a devoted socialist and champion of the working class...no GF, i think it's more basic than politics, you two kind of found your common ground, you're both thick...

great_fire
29-06-2014, 05:13 PM
bit weird seeing as though HSBW is a devoted socialist and champion of the working class...no GF, i think it's more basic than politics, you two kind of found your common ground, you're both thick...

Because I said that people in bondage gear and gimp masks didn't present a good image of the gay community and made people think gays are freaks?

I bet there are a lot of gay people who agree with me.

kempo
29-06-2014, 05:14 PM
LOL at this...How is it that I got a ban for no reason except bigrich can!!! and this idiot just has a post removed.

This board would be a lot better if the rules were clear and the punishments applied consistently and fairly.

Maybe the mods will apologise to me for the mistake they made!!

gramiller1959
29-06-2014, 05:22 PM
bit of a queer thread this >:) >:-)

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 05:49 PM
The left?? Sorry but I am me, I don't play this stupid left right game. Surly the world would be a better place without the ridiculous views like he expressed in the other thread and that's my opinion that in no way stops him from giving his.

Someone saying you don't have a right to an opinion is an opinion and by saying you can't do this is saying that they don't have the right to an opinion and no different to what they said.

millertop
29-06-2014, 06:18 PM
FFS like spoilt brats on here, different opinion to yours so let's remove the thread, if that's the case why not remove all the other threads where we all have different opinions :/

I didn't see any abuse at any of the posters so why remove it?

Brin
29-06-2014, 06:21 PM
FFS like spoilt brats on here, different opinion to yours so let's remove the thread, if that's the case why not remove all the other threads where we all have different opinions :/

I didn't see any abuse at any of the posters so why remove it?

Because some can request favours?

HotshotBobbyW
29-06-2014, 06:42 PM
It's not OTT at all for the world to finally move on we need to find a way to get rid of ridiculous views like yours. Not an easy thing to do as you're clearly uneducable like a lot of folk.

The point is that nothings unnatural which the video explains very clearly, can't believe I had to explain it to you, proves how much of a cretin you are.

That of course is your opinion, the fact that you think my view is ridiculous is in itself ridiculous in my opinion.

Anyway the video was simply a thick Yank ranting on about total ballix, in my opinion.

BTW the use of the word 'cretin' could be deemed to be very very abusive if taken in the wrong context:

1.a stupid person (used as a general term of abuse).
2.a person who is physically deformed and has learning difficulties because of congenital thyroid deficiency.
To which do you refer ?????

kempo
29-06-2014, 07:01 PM
millertop and brin.Its not about differing opinions, its about posting stuff that is homophobic.

His post was homophobic and offensive.Its not allowed on here..quite rightly so.

Its 2014 and its shocking to see 1950s opinions suggesting being gay is abnormal...same with anti muslim threads...its nothing to do with having differing opinions..its about posting to offend a particular group who have a right to come on this board and not be driven out.

The irony of it all is that...Gay Pride celebrate their sexual orientation because of the hurtful prejudice they have had to endure in their lives!

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 07:06 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 07:07 PM
millertop and brin.Its not about differing opinions, its about posting stuff that is homophobic.

His post was homophobic and offensive.Its not allowed on here..quite rightly so.

Its 2014 and its shocking to see 1950s opinions suggesting being gay is abnormal...same with anti muslim threads...its nothing to do with having differing opinions..its about posting to offend a particular group who have a right to come on this board and not be driven out.

The irony of it all is that...Gay Pride celebrate their sexual orientation because of the hurtful prejudice they have had to endure in their lives!

Like button pressed.

HotshotBobbyW
29-06-2014, 07:07 PM
millertop and brin.Its not about differing opinions, its about posting stuff that is homophobic.

His post was homophobic and offensive.Its not allowed on here..quite rightly so.

Its 2014 and its shocking to see 1950s opinions suggesting being gay is abnormal...same with anti muslim threads...its nothing to do with having differing opinions..its about posting to offend a particular group who have a right to come on this board and not be driven out.

The irony of it all is that...Gay Pride celebrate their sexual orientation because of the hurtful prejudice they have had to endure in their lives!


Just another word from the pc brigade, i respect my old values and find some of the modern day values and opinions a step backwards.

Just a question is this normal behaviour ???

see link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28070414

Anyway we seem to have drifted off topic here so i will comment no further. :D

dusty_miller
29-06-2014, 07:11 PM
millertop and brin.Its not about differing opinions, its about posting stuff that is homophobic.

His post was homophobic and offensive.Its not allowed on here..quite rightly so.

Its 2014 and its shocking to see 1950s opinions suggesting being gay is abnormal...same with anti muslim threads...its nothing to do with having differing opinions..its about posting to offend a particular group who have a right to come on this board and not be driven out.

The irony of it all is that...Gay Pride celebrate their sexual orientation because of the hurtful prejudice they have had to endure in their lives!

I concur Sir

dusty_miller
29-06-2014, 07:25 PM
You said
"Just another word from the pc brigade, i respect my old values and find some of the modern day values and opinions a step backwards."

"Just a question is this normal behaviour ???"

Firstly
define "Normal"
Question back at ya- if you are a "straight" person or Heterosexual to use the correct word why does no-one ever 'come out'.
Yet if you are of Homosexual orientation you have to 'come out'?

Another--Do we choose our sexuality?
why is it wrong to find someone of the same sex attractive?


Old values seem to drag us back to the dark ages old bean.
We accept those of all cultures today and celebrate that freedom in lots of ways.
In 50 years time most veterans of the Wars 1 and 2 will be lost to age but we will still honour those guys for centuries to come.
Lets celebrate the same for equality, human rights or would you rather we live under Draconian rule?

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 07:30 PM
It has fu ck all to do with the PC brigade as proven I'm not very PC at all. It's about accepting the facts that people are born with their sexuality and more importantly everyone has the right to live their lives the way they want within reason. Why homosexuality bothers folk so much is beyond me. Way can't folk concentrate their own lives, some real sad people about. :/

I've never come across anyone quite like you Hotshot, just as you think he couldn't possibly make himself look anymore stupid you manage it. XD XD

crashbang
29-06-2014, 07:34 PM
we have some sensitive souls on here and they became a little upset, sorry if offense caused by my opinion. Lets move on now ;-)





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jolly_roger
29-06-2014, 07:36 PM
I think vegetarians are abnormal, does that mean this thread is going to be deleted?

...or just because it's from me and will therefore upset certain posters that think I'm an imbecile? XD

gramiller1959
29-06-2014, 07:45 PM
just as evolution is making the human race taller and sadly fatter it also seems to be creating a third gender :/

michaeldc
29-06-2014, 07:45 PM
[quote="great_fire", which is ********, HSB is entitled to an opinion, left-wing authoritarian fascists can **** off.[/quote]

What a load of rubbish. Kempo has this right, being offensive isn't just expressing an opinion. The left wing people I know simply want more harmony amongst people - hate speech and abuse of minorities isn't about having a different opinion, it's about hurting others and stopping progress.

What year do we live in again?

jolly_roger
29-06-2014, 07:49 PM
Pacifist left wingers?

...and just how many did Stalin bump off?

millmoormagic
29-06-2014, 07:49 PM
GF's in about 1958...

kempo
29-06-2014, 07:54 PM
just as evolution is making the human race taller and sadly fatter it also seems to be creating a third gender :/

I can only shake my head...so sad that such people with these views are so prominent in Rotherham.

off downstairs now to watch Costa Rica get 6 and not think about such horrible opinions.

piddimiller
29-06-2014, 08:20 PM
It's 2014. Who gives a damn whether someone is gay ! Get your own house in order before condemning people who prefer same sex relations. There's enough problems in the world without insensitive agendas.

millertop
29-06-2014, 08:35 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

You are you talking to?

I don't agree with what he said at all but like I said i didn't see any abuse at the posters and didn't know why the thread was removed unlike you who has just insulted some one and I hope it wasn't at me

CAMiller
29-06-2014, 08:44 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

You are you talking to?

I don't agree with what he said at all but like I said i didn't see any abuse at the posters and didn't know why the thread was removed unlike you who has just insulted some one and I hope it wasn't at me[/quote]

I removed it at the request of at least 3 other posters as it contained homophobic views. I didn't yellow/red card HSBW as was requested by some as he hadn't actually been abusive to other posters.

great_fire
29-06-2014, 08:51 PM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.

millertop
29-06-2014, 08:57 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

You are you talking to?

I don't agree with what he said at all but like I said i didn't see any abuse at the posters and didn't know why the thread was removed unlike you who has just insulted some one and I hope it wasn't at me[/quote]

I removed it at the request of at least 3 other posters as it contained homophobic views. I didn't yellow/red card HSBW as was requested by some as he hadn't actually been abusive to other posters.[/quote]

That's fair enough, but wouldn't it be a good idea if the thread

Amanda_Hugg_n_Kiss
29-06-2014, 08:58 PM
Talking to Hotshot millertop, I was answering his question (1 was my answer) and below that I was referring to the video I posted in the link. Hotshot insults folk on a regular basis and I give him some back. I don't think the thread should have been deleted either.

jolly_roger
29-06-2014, 09:05 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

You are you talking to?

I don't agree with what he said at all but like I said i didn't see any abuse at the posters and didn't know why the thread was removed unlike you who has just insulted some one and I hope it wasn't at me[/quote]

I removed it at the request of at least 3 other posters as it contained homophobic views. I didn't yellow/red card HSBW as was requested by some as he hadn't actually been abusive to other posters.[/quote]

For what it's worth I think you got it wrong.

Bad decision to d

kempo
29-06-2014, 09:12 PM
1. It was my intention to be abusive, I'm not very PC.

He was ranting about idiots like you and the argument that nothings unnatural is a pretty good one as we're all part of nature.

It would be nice if you could answer the question what is normal?

What's normal to one person would be abnormal to someone else would you agree?

You are you talking to?

I don't agree with what he said at all but like I said i didn't see any abuse at the posters and didn't know why the thread was removed unlike you who has just insulted some one and I hope it wasn't at me[/quote]

I removed it at the request of at least 3 other posters as it contained homophobic views. I didn't yellow/red card HSBW as was requested by some as he hadn't actually been abusive to other posters.[/quote]

Just love the reasoning..Exactly why then did I get carded a few

gramiller1959
29-06-2014, 09:14 PM
just as evolution is making the human race taller and sadly fatter it also seems to be creating a third gender :/

I can only shake my head...so sad that such people with these views are so prominent in Rotherham.

off downstairs now to watch Costa Rica get 6 and not think about such horrible opinions.[/quote]




so Thailand where 2% of the population are ladyboys are not the start of a third gender ? are you saying that people are not born with both sets of bits ?


evolution is a strange thing kempo

jolly_roger
29-06-2014, 09:18 PM
Maybe it's a natural built in control on population growth?

The number of people in the world that believe homosexuality to be abhorrent is probably numbered in millions.

kempo
29-06-2014, 09:20 PM
just as evolution is making the human race taller and sadly fatter it also seems to be creating a third gender :/

I can only shake my head...so sad that such people with these views are so prominent in Rotherham.

off downstairs now to watch Costa Rica get 6 and not think about such horrible opinions.[/quote]




so Thailand where 2% of the population are ladyboys are not the start of a third gender ? are you saying that people are not born with both sets of bits ?


evolution is a strange thing kempo[/quote]

The discussion was about gay people so I assumed and was horrified that you were addressing gays as a third gender.

i had no idea that you had extended the discussion to hermaphrodites but am reassured to hear that you were not being derogatory towards gays and apologise.

millmoormagic
29-06-2014, 10:00 PM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.[/quote]

you talk of free speech, and laud it as dated, what Coulson did was the absolute opposite of free speech, you mentioned Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant??, well, i'll tell yer what, i'll mention Millie Dowler, go on then GF, justify that one, where the folk you look upto scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel. You're obviously believing any old crap some muppet is feeding you GF, and i pity you for it, because you're not far off the bottom of the barrel yersen.

John2
29-06-2014, 11:09 PM
I don't really get offended...

I just wonder if some posters remember the bitter old men from their youth, the sort who would be outspokenly ignorant and abusive about such things as mixed race relationships, the sort who most decently minded people viewed as out of touch and pathetic.

And I just wonder if some posters realise that's who they are now and how they will be remembered, and I feel sorry for them.

jolly_roger
29-06-2014, 11:16 PM
I don't really get offended...

I just wonder if some posters remember the bitter old men from their youth, the sort who would be outspokenly ignorant and abusive about such things as mixed race relationships, the sort who most decently minded people viewed as out of touch and pathetic.

And I just wonder if some posters realise that's who they are now and how they will be remembered, and I feel sorry for them.

We can all rest happily in our beds now that John2 feels sorry for them.

As if anybody cares.

great_fire
29-06-2014, 11:57 PM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.[/quote]

you talk of free speech, and laud it as dated, what Coulson did was the absolute opposite of free speech, you mentioned Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant??, well, i'll tell yer what, i'll mention Millie Dowler, go on then GF, justify that one, where the folk you look upto scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel. You're obviously believing any old crap some muppet is feeding you GF, and i pity you for it, because you're not far off the bottom of the barrel yersen.[/quote]

People like you will only be satisfied if the only newspaper i

dusty_miller
30-06-2014, 07:13 AM
just as evolution is making the human race taller and sadly fatter it also seems to be creating a third gender :/

How else would a Male to female and vice versa like to be referred to?
or an hermaphrodite or someone who struggles with sexual identity.
Or dare I say it, someone who takes the decision to transform themselves into neither one or the other for the pure satisfaction of other men whom pay them for to do so?

howdydoo
30-06-2014, 07:13 AM
Hotshot that post was f00king disgusting.

Oh wait a minute, the millersmad police once again deprived me of reading the content because 3 poor souls complained. Diddums.

PATHETIC

The mods on here need to have a serious rethink. Deleting random posts and threads on a daily basis.

Not to take any action against the poster, makes it even more pathetic.

Aerosols.

Especially these overseas mods. Clueless.



You could clear this board up in a month but you're making it worse. Update the ground rules and stick to them.

Leave offensive comments up for all to see and if they're really bad and unlawful, email a copy to the law.

Stop this censorship FFS.

dusty_miller
30-06-2014, 07:33 AM
Hotshot that post was f00king disgusting.

Oh wait a minute, the millersmad police once again deprived me of reading the content because 3 poor souls complained. Diddums.

PATHETIC

The mods on here need to have a serious rethink. Deleting random posts and threads on a daily basis.

Not to take any action against the poster, makes it even more pathetic.

Aerosols.

Especially these overseas mods. Clueless.



You could clear this board up in a month but you're making it worse. Update the ground rules and stick to them.

Leave offensive comments up for all to see and if they're really bad and unlawful, email a copy to the law.

Stop this censorship FFS.

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S8_Miller
30-06-2014, 07:40 AM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.[/quote]

you talk of free speech, and laud it as dated, what Coulson did was the absolute opposite of free speech, you mentioned Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant??, well, i'll tell yer what, i'll mention Millie Dowler, go on then GF, justify that one, where the folk you look upto scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel. You're obviously believing any old crap some muppet is feeding you GF, and i pity you for it, because you're not far off the bottom of the barrel yersen.[/quote]

I'm not sure it's as black and white as you seem to think MMM

walter10
30-06-2014, 11:44 AM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.[/quote]

you talk of free speech, and laud it as dated, what Coulson did was the absolute opposite of free speech, you mentioned Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant??, well, i'll tell yer what, i'll mention Millie Dowler, go on then GF, justify that one, where the folk you look upto scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel. You're obviously believing any old crap some muppet is feeding you GF, and i pity you for it, because you're not far off the bottom of the barrel yersen.[/quote]

People like yo

brassgnat
30-06-2014, 01:08 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

ColinRUFC
30-06-2014, 01:09 PM
Can we not just all be mates and go back to slagging our new signings off?

vespabri
30-06-2014, 01:13 PM
Yes pal...i thought Agard was crap when we signed him...XD XD XD XD XD XD

BigRotherhamFanMe
30-06-2014, 01:29 PM
I once read a saying somewhere which read 'Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out'. It certainly applies to one or two people on this forum.

S8_Miller
30-06-2014, 01:51 PM
I once read a saying somewhere which read 'Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out'. It certainly applies to one or two people on this forum.

:-) a lot of truth in that.

HotshotBobbyW
30-06-2014, 03:58 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

What an idiotic thing to say and libelous to boot you really ought to be very careful sunshine , very careful .

Redshank
30-06-2014, 04:15 PM
I once read a saying somewhere which read 'Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out'. It certainly applies to one or two people on this forum.

:-) a lot of truth in that.[/quote]

Could be true. I guess there's at least a bit of that in all of us. Difference is, some recognise it as unacceptable & unsavoury and try to do something about it.

kempo
30-06-2014, 05:57 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

What an idiotic thing to say and libelous to boot you really ought to be very careful sunshine , very careful .[/quote]

Someone only using a username and otherwise remaining anonymous cannot be libelled.

gramiller1959
30-06-2014, 05:59 PM
Yes pal...i thought Agard was crap when we signed him...XD XD XD XD XD XD




me too :) but he was wasn't he ? :O

swintondude
30-06-2014, 06:05 PM
HSB...complete tool, one of only two members on here that I wouldn't p!ss on if they were on fire.

BigRotherhamFanMe
30-06-2014, 06:11 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

No one on here is advocating free-speech with no limits so I'm not sure why you're offering that as an argument.

As for your other point, here's a novel idea: how about let people say what they want so that ideas can be challenged? If you ban everything, all they do is share their thoughts

crashbang
30-06-2014, 06:14 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

No one on here is advocating free-speech with no limits so I'm not sure why you're offering that as an argument.

As for your other point, here's a novel idea: how about let people say what they want so that ideas can be challenged? If y

brassgnat
30-06-2014, 06:21 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

What an idiotic thing to say and libelous to boot you really ought to be very careful sunshine , very careful .[/quote]

I was trying to illustrate the point about freedom to say anything you like to or about anyone without any consequences f

millmoormagic
30-06-2014, 06:28 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

No one on here is advocating free-speech with no limits so I'm not sure why you're offering that as an argument.

As for your other point, here's a novel idea: how about let people say what

rileyev
30-06-2014, 06:32 PM
The argument has carried on, on this thread.. Still with questionable opinions on this one..

Seems pointless deleting the other. .

jolly_roger
30-06-2014, 06:34 PM
...or those with signs in tbe back window that say "if you can read this I've lost my caravan" or some other piece of "humour"

HotshotBobbyW
30-06-2014, 06:35 PM
If PC means people can go about their daily lives without physical or verbal abuse, intimidation or discrimination, on grounds of gender, sexuality, race, national origin, religion and disability etc. then I am quite happy to be PC.
Do I have the freedom to find HSBs real, then broadcast it over the internet that this guy (without any shred of evidence ) is a *****phile?
If HSB gets beaten up on the street or a brick through his window, then I have no responsibility for that, on the grounds of freedom of speech?
Callings( and negative generalisations and assumptions) can incite, others into thinking sticks and stones are justified.

What an idiotic thing to say and libelous to boot you really ought to be very careful sunshine , very careful .[/quote]

I was trying to illustrate the point about freedom to say anything you lik

crashbang
30-06-2014, 06:36 PM
:D :D :D to the caravan bit.

frogmiller
30-06-2014, 06:41 PM
Hotshot that post was f00king disgusting.

Oh wait a minute, the millersmad police once again deprived me of reading the content because 3 poor souls complained. Diddums.

PATHETIC

The mods on here need to have a serious rethink. Deleting random posts and threads on a daily basis.

Not to take any action against the poster, makes it even more pathetic.

Aerosols.

Especially these overseas mods. Clueless.



You could clear this board up in a month but you're making it worse. Update the ground rules and stick to them.

Leave offensive comments up for all to see and if they're really bad and unlawful, email a copy to the law.

Stop this censorship FFS.

Not guilty! I'm running a business and don't have time to read through each post/thread. I told you before that I would be a good boy and stick to the matchthread. I really enjoy getting involved with other posters/ees during the matches. Other than that my involvement has been destr

crashbang
30-06-2014, 06:42 PM
Hardly overseas Frogster

millertop
30-06-2014, 06:45 PM
Don't think Camiller will delete this thread ;D

kempo
30-06-2014, 06:53 PM
While we are on the subject...Can I have an apology from the moderator who recently banned me for no reason other than he holds a grudge.

Even Suarez is issued an apology today!

Not a single Mod has owned up to banning me and there has been no explanation.

Howdy as often is correct...either dont bother or have a clear set of rules and apply them.

Now back to my apology ...be a BIG man whoever it was...your life will be RICHer for it...You were wrong so apologise!

millertop
30-06-2014, 06:55 PM
While we are on the subject...Can I have an apology from the moderator who recently banned me for no reason other than he holds a grudge.

Even Suarez is issued an apology today!

Not a single Mod has owned up to banning me and there has been no explanation.

Howdy as often is correct...either dont bother or have a clear set of rules and apply them.

Now back to my apology ...be a BIG man whoever it was...your life will be RICHer for it...You were wrong so apologise!

Don't hold your breath XD

millmoormagic
30-06-2014, 06:55 PM
While we are on the subject...Can I have an apology from the moderator who recently banned me for no reason other than he holds a grudge.

Even Suarez is issued an apology today!

Not a single Mod has owned up to banning me and there has been no explanation.

Howdy as often is correct...either dont bother or have a clear set of rules and apply them.

Now back to my apology ...be a BIG man whoever it was...your life will be RICHer for it...You were wrong so apologise!

chuffin ell Kempo give it a rest, take yer medicine like a man, man...

frogmiller
30-06-2014, 07:16 PM
While we are on the subject...Can I have an apology from the moderator who recently banned me for no reason other than he holds a grudge.

Even Suarez is issued an apology today!

Not a single Mod has owned up to banning me and there has been no explanation.

Howdy as often is correct...either dont bother or have a clear set of rules and apply them.

Now back to my apology ...be a BIG man whoever it was...your life will be RICHer for it...You were wrong so apologise!

I may have done it but I can't remember why

jolly_roger
30-06-2014, 07:25 PM
Public service?

frogmiller
30-06-2014, 07:29 PM
Public service?

I really loved that like button XD

millmoormagic
30-06-2014, 07:31 PM
GF's in about 1958...

Yes free speech is so dated isn't it?

Certainly seems to be the case in this country 60 journalists arrested, 100 million quid to prosecute Andy Coulson, all because Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan don't want the press reporting what they get up to with strippers and prossies.[/quote]

you talk of free speech, and laud it as dated, what Coulson did was the absolute opposite of free speech, you mentioned Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant??, well, i'll tell yer what, i'll mention Millie Dowler, go on then GF, justify that one, where the folk you look upto scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel. You're obviously believing any old crap some muppet is feeding you GF, and i pity you for it, because you're not far off the bottom of the barrel yersen.[/quote]

People like yo

frogmiller
30-06-2014, 07:34 PM
Isn't the Daily Star not the Sun :?

millavanilla
01-07-2014, 12:09 AM
LOL at this...How is it that I got a ban for no reason except bigrich can!!! and this idiot just has a post removed.

This board would be a lot better if the rules were clear and the punishments applied consistently and fairly.

Maybe the mods will apologise to me for the mistake they made!!



They didnt really know which person to ban, ...you, ibs, or zilzal... XD

thaimillerfan
01-07-2014, 03:42 AM
JUST ACCEPT THE MODERATORS ACTIONS AND LETS MOVE ON . SOMEONE HAS TO POLICE THIS FORUM AND I'M GLAD IT'S NOT ME ISN'T IT SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT OUR FOOTBALL TEAM , CLUB, NEWS ETC.

I posted a topic on here and it was locked out I followed the right procedure and asked by e.mail for what reason? I never got a reply, so I moved on on

kempo
01-07-2014, 05:58 AM
While we are on the subject...Can I have an apology from the moderator who recently banned me for no reason other than he holds a grudge.

Even Suarez is issued an apology today!

Not a single Mod has owned up to banning me and there has been no explanation.

Howdy as often is correct...either dont bother or have a clear set of rules and apply them.

Now back to my apology ...be a BIG man whoever it was...your life will be RICHer for it...You were wrong so apologise!

I may have done it but I can't remember why[/quote]

lol..no surprise there...cant remember!...Try..no reasonable reason..I just dont like the guy and his posting style.He doesnt seem to fit in with my view of the 'working class' and is not one of the clique who I fly in to loudly and proudly meet up with when i fly in from France.

I didnt mind it when he was mercilessly abused by others and did nothing but as soon as I saw

kempo
01-07-2014, 05:58 AM
LOL at this...How is it that I got a ban for no reason except bigrich can!!! and this idiot just has a post removed.

This board would be a lot better if the rules were clear and the punishments applied consistently and fairly.

Maybe the mods will apologise to me for the mistake they made!!



They didnt really know which person to ban, ...you, ibs, or zilzal... XD[/quote]

The old ones are the best milla

dusty_miller
01-07-2014, 06:56 AM
Nice to see this topic has all but blown itself out and there are more important issues around the world that could affect us.

In a world that strives to do the right thing we in our civilised society have to police and govern ourselves as well as rely on the law at times when we stray.

So easy to hide behind a keyboard and pass judgement.

Ludlowmiller
01-07-2014, 03:58 PM
I have just read this entire thread. It is full, for the most part of nonsense and ill informed rubbish.

I know several gay guys..without exeption, they are clean living, fairly meticulous re their standards of living and pride themselves in not shouting their mouths off about being gay. I respect, accept and warm to them for what they are..decent friends.

However, if someone despised and hated the very concept of Homosexuality, then I would embrace and champion his right to say so. Freedom of speech cannot be curtailed, dictated or restrained by ANY living person who claims to hold it as sacred.

Many believe I am anti Islam...they couldn't be further from the truth. I have many islamic friends in this country, in Africa and India and a lot of them (not all though) agree with my opinions on female oppression, sharia obsecenity, (esp towards Homosexuals)Cruelty to animals and forced deportation of young British Muslim girls to arranged marriages and gang rapes that await them back ho

crashbang
01-07-2014, 05:21 PM
WE don't have to tolerate anything.

" The most abhorrent of views."
Don't think so.

Ludlowmiller
01-07-2014, 07:13 PM
Crash...I am talking ONLY about freedom of speech and opinion...and the toleration and acceptance of other people's rights to freely express anything, however repulsive or abhorrent it may be. What else does a civilised society have if it doesn't have this freedom.

If you are talking about the same issue then can you offer your opinion on which bits of free speech and opinions should not be allowed?
Can you see the dangers Crash if we start cancelling little bits with which we disagree or which are horrendous to us?

If some Gov't Dept or 'thought police' have their ways, race, culture, religion, sexuality, nationalism and a host of other sujbect will be banned. 'Nanny state' and 'big brother' come to my mind.

John2
01-07-2014, 11:01 PM
Crash...I am talking ONLY about freedom of speech and opinion...and the toleration and acceptance of other people's rights to freely express anything, however repulsive or abhorrent it may be. What else does a civilised society have if it doesn't have this freedom.

Devils A here, but there's a group of Christians in the US who go and picket the funerals of fallen soldiers celebrating their deaths. Should they be allowed to freely express themselves in this way?

For reference this would be illegal in the UK, as is burning poppies for which successful prosecutions were made. Were those prosecutions a violation of free speech?

Which society is more 'civilised' by this measure, the US or UK?

millertop
02-07-2014, 07:10 AM
The rules are made up to suit at the time.