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twitch44
29-08-2014, 12:53 PM
Like most posters on here, and residents of Rotherham, I am ashamed of our elected officials and Police force and their incompetence.
I also feel that whatever inquiry will uncover it will be a drawn out process and, by and large, the shameful 'turning the other cheek' attitude will prevail.
I also think we all have been guilty to some degree of doing this over many years, but then tut-tutting whenever splinter groups organise and descend on our town.
This problem is what happens when different cultures become neighbours - and let's not kid ourselves thinking this is an 'Asian issue'. If you have walked through Eastwood lately and experienced the eastern European presence there you will understand my point.
So, do we hope that mass immigration and our borders will revert back decades?
I think we all have a duty to stop wringing our hands and do something, anything, to send out a message.
I will be boycotting certain local taxi firms (you all know which ones) from now on.

uttis
29-08-2014, 01:33 PM
What a ridiculous post, I for one don't know which taxi firms are "involved" if thats the correct term, does that mean all taxi drivers are *****s? if its down to race you'll have a pretty hard job trying to book a taxi with a non Asian (sorry Pakistani) driver, not impossible task granted

ivor_b_hardy
29-08-2014, 01:39 PM
I stopped using them as soon as it was mentioned that these very same taxis were being used to pick the girls up in and take them to a secluded spot and then rape and abuse them.
I will NEVER use another Pakistani owned taxi again.
These people are the scum of the earth and make me feel sick to the pit of my stomach.
I hope that all the guilty ones burn in hell after what they've done. >:( >:( >:( >:(

jolly_roger
29-08-2014, 01:51 PM
Why stop there?

Why not boycott all asian owned businesses?

Yes, I'm sure the usual bleaters wil bang on about "good muslims" but there had to be some backlash somewhere.

luvpud
29-08-2014, 01:55 PM
Bit of a knee jerk reaction this , I'm a taxi driver and have worked in the industry long enough to know that there are good and bad drivers at every company .
Not living in Rotherham anymore I don't know the firms involved but it's probably the same everywhere that bad drivers move on from firm to firm because reputable firms don't tolerate them for whatever reason .
I just hope action is taken swiftly by the authorities against all the perpetrators from the top to the bottom and feel the full weight of the British justice system and the victims are not let down a second time .
I can quite understand you not wanting to use the firms you believe whose drivers committed these abhorant acts but there is a strong possibility that they no longer work for that particular company and are working elsewhere .
Unless you are sure who these people are it's not realy fair on the decent taxi drivers of these companies unless they are all involved .
Just to say finally I agree with you totally on

ivor_b_hardy
29-08-2014, 02:00 PM
Jolly, it's not Asian, it's Pakistani people who've been raping our kids.
Asian includes Chinese, Japanese etc, who iv'e not heard mentioned in these atrocities, so i'll carry on using my local "chinky" and stop using the local Pakistani takeaway which pretends to be an Indian takeaway anyhow. >:(

millmoormagic
29-08-2014, 02:10 PM
So, which firms are Pakistani?, which curry houses are Pakistani?

Don't really know mesen, Akbars is Pakistani i think, what about the others?

JimmyLallacs
29-08-2014, 02:21 PM
For starters, how about SYP boycotting meetings with the execrable Shawn Wright.
This may free up time and resources to gather any
evidence of his complicity in the cover up of child rape.

deMiller
29-08-2014, 02:25 PM
Can anyone actually say which taxi company a few of us are avoiding now?
I really dont know which one we are on about.

ivor_b_hardy
29-08-2014, 03:07 PM
Any Toyota taxi, because that's all they seem to drive

rich76
29-08-2014, 03:35 PM
Can't subscribe to this one. Ruining people's livelihoods for something they haven't done and in all probability didn't know anything about. I am damn sure rapists, whatever their ethnicity, don't make announcements about it to their colleagues.

Besides, it seems there was a pretty big cover up at the BBC and I don't recall a mass cancellation of license fees.

I can guarantee John2 and Kerr Avon won't have cancelled their Lib Dem memberships in protest at Cyril Smith. Where are they btw? ;D

rolymiller
29-08-2014, 03:48 PM
Yep this is getting silly. Why should innocent people be punished for the crimes of a few. Most Asians are honest hard working people trying to make ends meet like the rest of us who would abhor these crimes. They would also agree that the ones who have perpetrated these crimes will hopefully be brought to justice along with those who let it happen.

Georgetown
29-08-2014, 04:00 PM
So, which firms are Pakistani?, which curry houses are Pakistani?

Don't really know mesen, Akbars is Pakistani i think, what about the others?

There isn't a single Indian restaurant or take away in Rotherham as far as I know and as they all serve Halal food, something which I don't eat for personal reasons, I haven't eaten a Pakistani curry/pizza/kebab for over 10 years as I will touch on later.

As for taxis, I already boycotted them years ago apart from Parish where all the drivers are of 'English Heritage'. The reason for my boycott is due to numerous incidents involving family members and my wife and Pakistani drivers and or taxis. I'll not go through all the accidents and false claims against my sister and father. I'll not go into detail about when my mother was stopped by a bunch of Pakistanis on Tooker Road who banged on the window of her car and shouted "why the f@ck you drivin down here, this is OUR street".

I can

Georgetown
29-08-2014, 04:12 PM
Forgot to say, after reading Andrew Norfolk's Times article last year about how taxis were the main way of transporting and pimping these kids around the town and beyond so they could be raped by as many men as possible, my actions of boycotting them seemed justified.

Brassgnat, Millmoor, before you start bleating about Nazis and racists, I honestly Don't give a toss about how people like you see my actions.

Anymore examples, just ask.

ivor_b_hardy
29-08-2014, 04:17 PM
Can't subscribe to this one. Ruining people's livelihoods for something they haven't done and in all probability didn't know anything about. I am damn sure rapists, whatever their ethnicity, don't make announcements about it to their colleagues.

Besides, it seems there was a pretty big cover up at the BBC and I don't recall a mass cancellation of license fees.

I can guarantee John2 and Kerr Avon won't have cancelled their Lib Dem memberships in protest at Cyril Smith. Where are they btw? ;D


Rich, if you don't think taxis were involved and it wasn't all premeditated then you should watch Look North today where they've got more "breaking news" about it.

great_fire
29-08-2014, 05:23 PM
Yep this is getting silly. Why should innocent people be punished for the crimes of a few. Most Asians are honest hard working people trying to make ends meet like the rest of us who would abhor these crimes. They would also agree that the ones who have perpetrated these crimes will hopefully be brought to justice along with those who let it happen.

I wouldn't say most Asians are honest, why do you think so many go into jobs like taxi driving and running corner shops?

It's because they get paid in cash and pay for the goods they sell in cash, in terms of tax avoidance they go the extra mile.

brassgnat
29-08-2014, 06:17 PM
Boycott any Northern Ireland protestant business for links the Orange order and the Kincora boys home scandal.
Boycott catholic owned businesses because of the abuse scandals in the church. - view external link (a)

Archiemiller
29-08-2014, 06:22 PM
So, which firms are Pakistani?, which curry houses are Pakistani?

Don't really know mesen, Akbars is Pakistani i think, what about the others?

There isn't a single Indian restaurant or take away in Rotherham as far as I know and as they all serve Halal food, something which I don't eat for personal reasons, I haven't eaten a Pakistani curry/pizza/kebab for over 10 years as I will touch on later.

As for taxis, I already boycotted them years ago apart from Parish where all the drivers are of 'English Heritage'. The reason for my boycott is due to numerous incidents involving family members and my wife and Pakistani drivers and or taxis. I'll not go through all the accidents and false claims against my sister and father. I'll not go into detail about when my mother was stopped by a bunch of Pakistanis on Tooker Road who banged on the window of her car and shouted "why the f@ck yo

millmoormagic
29-08-2014, 06:38 PM
Forgot to say, after reading Andrew Norfolk's Times article last year about how taxis were the main way of transporting and pimping these kids around the town and beyond so they could be raped by as many men as possible, my actions of boycotting them seemed justified.

Brassgnat, Millmoor, before you start bleating about Nazis and racists, I honestly Don't give a toss about how people like you see my actions.

Anymore examples, just ask.

Prey tell where i have EVER, EVER, bleated about racists and nazis, listen up pal, i'm a socialist, i'm not Brassgnat, i'll argue politics if you like, but i personally would string the ****in lot up, you see, i hear the right wing nutcases bleat about blinkers, look in the mirror sunshine.

*edit, read the post again,i was merely stating that you can't boycott stuff of Pakistani ownership unless you know if it's Pakistani, yes?

great_fire
29-08-2014, 06:50 PM
So, which firms are Pakistani?, which curry houses are Pakistani?

Don't really know mesen, Akbars is Pakistani i think, what about the others?

There isn't a single Indian restaurant or take away in Rotherham as far as I know and as they all serve Halal food, something which I don't eat for personal reasons, I haven't eaten a Pakistani curry/pizza/kebab for over 10 years as I will touch on later.

As for taxis, I already boycotted them years ago apart from Parish where all the drivers are of 'English Heritage'. The reason for my boycott is due to numerous incidents involving family members and my wife and Pakistani drivers and or taxis. I'll not go through all the accidents and false claims against my sister and father. I'll not go into detail about when my mother was stopped by a bunch of Pakistanis on Tooker Road who banged on

millavanilla
30-08-2014, 06:43 AM
Everything they do is kept in -house..they look after their own whilst taking the easy money...i saw an incident the other day when a taxi driver clipped a womans car..his fault...within minutes there was 5 other taxis circling her...i dont care about the do gooders opinions..my opinion is enough is enough...

Ludlowmiller
30-08-2014, 07:49 AM
Boycotting Pakistani taxi firms is a valid and democratic protest when evidence is so readily available (from a Professor) that:-

1.Pakistani men commit a greater pro rate proportion of grooming and rapes

2. Evidence exists that Pakistani taxis were complicit in transporting grooming and rape victims.

Boycotting is fine but should not be necessary, as every Pakistani owned Taxi should be de-licenced by the Local Authority pending this recent outrage.

howdydoo
30-08-2014, 07:58 AM
'as every Pakistani owned Taxi should be de-licenced'


and EVERY passenger on the Bridge Inn coach, the other night, should receive 10 year banning order from every football ground in England.

northy69
30-08-2014, 08:31 AM
[quote="ivor_b_hardy" about it.[/quote]

Nearly spat mi tea out when they said only 8,000 Pakistani's live in the borough.

Ellis_D
30-08-2014, 08:48 AM
I think it's all justified. How much longer will we sit back and allow these things to happen? I shall boycott every Pakistani owned company, gladly.

And again, I don't give two f ucks what the do gooders think or say. If you want to say I'm racist, I will say it's because they've made me racist.

It's not just this incident, but it's grooming gangs across the country, not just by Pakistanis, but almost always Muslims.

We've had the 7/7 bombings, the murder of Lee Rigby, the failed terror attacks, the threat of people coming back from fighting for IS to come here and commit further terror attacks.

And we do what? What does our government do? What do our police force do? "Oh, we're scared to arrest them because they might call us racist."

It's a sick joke. Where is OUR protection? I genuinely believe unless action is taken by those in power to stop this Islamification of Britain, one day, we will have a civil war.

And it's very much the fault of the idiots who vote Labour. The idi

shiregreenmillers
30-08-2014, 09:02 AM
'as every Pakistani owned Taxi should be de-licenced'


and EVERY passenger on the Bridge Inn coach, the other night, should receive 10 year banning order from every football ground in England. What goods a banning order 3 lads that travel to away games with us have been band for 3 years ..And they have never missed a match yet XD XD XD

howdydoo
30-08-2014, 11:28 AM
'as every Pakistani owned Taxi should be de-licenced'


and EVERY passenger on the Bridge Inn coach, the other night, should receive 10 year banning order from every football ground in England. What goods a banning order 3 lads that travel to away games with us have been band for 3 years ..And they have never missed a match yet XD XD XD[/quote]


You appear to be really proud of that.

Is it just pubs and clubs?

rolymiller
30-08-2014, 11:50 AM
Hmm interesting howdy..for someone who has such forthright views about people obeying the laws of the land eg the Rotherham Abuse scandal he seems to have little regard to obeying the law himself. What other acts of law breaking do you turn a blind eye to shire green I wonder..

KerrAvon
30-08-2014, 12:32 PM
Boycotting Pakistani taxi firms is a valid and democratic protest when evidence is so readily available (from a Professor) that:-

1.Pakistani men commit a greater pro rate proportion of grooming and rapes

2. Evidence exists that Pakistani taxis were complicit in transporting grooming and rape victims.


I think the report prepared by Professor Jay is a good starting point for discussion. I have read it and would urge everyone who posts on the subject to do so too. See link below.

For my part, I would like to think that just about everyone who has listened to the headlines in recent days would have struggled not to be shocked, saddened and above all angered about what has been going on within the town and the response, or lack of the same, from those in authority. It is truly horrific, an unspeakable tragedy for those directly affected and a source of shame for the town.

I donít think anyone will be helped by allowing my

wrighty_1
30-08-2014, 01:39 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes

gm_gm
30-08-2014, 06:03 PM
Boycotting Pakistani taxi firms is a valid and democratic protest when evidence is so readily available (from a Professor) that:-

1.Pakistani men commit a greater pro rate proportion of grooming and rapes

2. Evidence exists that Pakistani taxis were complicit in transporting grooming and rape victims.


I think the report prepared by Professor Jay is a good starting point for discussion. I have read it and would urge everyone who posts on the subject to do so too. See link below.

For my part, I would like to think that just about everyone who has listened to the headlines in recent days would have struggled not to be shocked, saddened and above all angered about what has been going on within the town and the response, or lack of the same, from those in authority. It is truly horrific, an unspeakable tragedy for those directly affected and a source of shame for the town.

I do

EmpireStateOfMind
31-08-2014, 10:54 AM
I agree with the boycott. There are only 4000 Pakistani men and probably about 3000 in the right age group, i.e. not children or aged.

Thats an astonishing statistic - at least 1400 documented rapes and only 3000 potential criminals yet noone knows anything...

The woman on Radio Sheffield said it is discussed in the community and at the mosques. Unless they produce a list ofs then its right they should be suspected of colusion.

The Taxi companies and b&b stuff just adds to the argument that it was/is endemic and of no interest to their community - it will be once the money dries up because its their big driver.

All the multi culturists trying to make weak comparrisons with catholics etc. need to give it a rest, islam declares none muslims to be worthy of this treatment hence the isis approach to captured women (they are sold for $25 under islamic laws).

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 01:21 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on and did nothing, stop acting like a blinkered imbecile.

S8_Miller
31-08-2014, 01:24 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on and did nothing, stop acting like a blinkered

EmpireStateOfMind
31-08-2014, 01:56 PM
Also a peaceful boycott to show our anger is better than silent hand wringing whilst the EDL smash up our town to do us a favour or some other extremist group offers its 'help'.

These apologists who are desperate to find a white british male comparison are just going to bring more trouble to the town; you lance a boil not hide it with a plaster.

just_a_goal
31-08-2014, 02:41 PM
I made a comment on here a few weeks ago regarding pakistani drivers... the one where I politley reminded a bloke that his kids should be wearing seat belts.

Yep i accept the subject title was something like.."why are pakistani drivers so bad"

But then Kempo and his gang got on my case, labelled me a racist to stir things up as usual. In fact my post also went on to really state that the driver was abusing me with his response!

great_fire
31-08-2014, 03:05 PM
It's a good idea, if all the taxi firms are boycotted then in all likelihood they will cough up the of the firm or firms involved.

In all likelihood though they will just change the of their cab firms shortly thereafter.

kempo
31-08-2014, 03:16 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on

great_fire
31-08-2014, 03:22 PM
What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes

For years there's been boasting about what a tight-knit community the Pakistani community is in Rotherham and now it's being denied?

They're all from the same place (Mirpur) and they're all pretty much related due to the practice of marrying first cousins.

Anyone who's ever had a disagreement with a Pakistani in Rotherham knows how quickly brothers, cousins, uncles turn up as if by magic.

Don't tell me the majority didn't know what was going on.

shiregreenmillers
31-08-2014, 03:27 PM
I made a comment on here a few weeks ago regarding pakistani drivers... the one where I politley reminded a bloke that his kids should be wearing seat belts.

Yep i accept the subject title was something like.."why are pakistani drivers so bad"

But then Kempo and his gang got on my case, labelled me a racist to stir things up as usual. In fact my post also went on to really state that the driver was abusing me with his response!Don't Take It to heart just a goal kempo and his gang call me a racist all the time :) :) :)

kempo
31-08-2014, 03:31 PM
I made a comment on here a few weeks ago regarding pakistani drivers... the one where I politley reminded a bloke that his kids should be wearing seat belts.

Yep i accept the subject title was something like.."why are pakistani drivers so bad"

But then Kempo and his gang got on my case, labelled me a racist to stir things up as usual. In fact my post also went on to really state that the driver was abusing me with his response!Don't Take It to heart just a goal kempo and his gang call me a racist all the time :) :) :)[/quote]

Why ever would I even think such a thing shire?...What time is the next EDL meeting by the way?

great_fire
31-08-2014, 03:33 PM
I think everyone in Rotherham needs to stand up and be counted on this. Offenders need to be held to account, the elected and employed officials who allowed this to happen need to accept their responsibilities and resign, the Asian community needs to make sure that it is doing all that it can to condemn and root out this behaviour and the community as whole has to ask how it is that we are allowing so many children to be vulnerable to abuse and exploitation.

So no apology for saying it was all BNP lies then?

shiregreenmillers
31-08-2014, 03:36 PM
I made a comment on here a few weeks ago regarding pakistani drivers... the one where I politley reminded a bloke that his kids should be wearing seat belts.

Yep i accept the subject title was something like.."why are pakistani drivers so bad"

But then Kempo and his gang got on my case, labelled me a racist to stir things up as usual. In fact my post also went on to really state that the driver was abusing me with his response!Don't Take It to heart just a goal kempo and his gang call me a racist all the time :) :) :)[/quote]

Why ever would I even think such a thing shire?...What time is the next EDL meeting by the way?[/quote]13th of september at 2 don't be late :P :P :P :P :P :P

EmpireStateOfMind
31-08-2014, 04:54 PM
Here we go again - just mention the Pakistani thing and the cries of racist come out.

The latest excuse is that there was no point in them handing over a list ofs as the police were in cover up mode. That's rubbish.

Well, they are listening now, so let's be having the list.

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 05:08 PM
I agree with the boycott. There are only 4000 Pakistani men and probably about 3000 in the right age group, i.e. not children or aged.

Thats an astonishing statistic - at least 1400 documented rapes and only 3000 potential criminals yet noone knows anything...

The woman on Radio Sheffield said it is discussed in the community and at the mosques. Unless they produce a list ofs then its right they should be suspected of colusion.

The Taxi companies and b&b stuff just adds to the argument that it was/is endemic and of no interest to their community - it will be once the money dries up because its their big driver.

All the multi culturists trying to make weak comparrisons with catholics etc. need to give it a rest, islam declares none muslims to be worthy of this treatment hence the isis approach to captured women (they are sold for $25 under islamic laws).This is the sort of thing I had in mind when I wrote about myt

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 05:13 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on and did nothing, stop acting like a blinkered

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 05:14 PM
I think everyone in Rotherham needs to stand up and be counted on this. Offenders need to be held to account, the elected and employed officials who allowed this to happen need to accept their responsibilities and resign, the Asian community needs to make sure that it is doing all that it can to condemn and root out this behaviour and the community as whole has to ask how it is that we are allowing so many children to be vulnerable to abuse and exploitation.

So no apology for saying it was all BNP lies then?[/quote]I'd happily apologise if I'd said that, but given that I didn't, I won't.

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 05:16 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 05:34 PM
I agree with the boycott. There are only 4000 Pakistani men and probably about 3000 in the right age group, i.e. not children or aged.

Thats an astonishing statistic - at least 1400 documented rapes and only 3000 potential criminals yet noone knows anything...

The woman on Radio Sheffield said it is discussed in the community and at the mosques. Unless they produce a list ofs then its right they should be suspected of colusion.

The Taxi companies and b&b stuff just adds to the argument that it was/is endemic and of no interest to their community - it will be once the money dries up because its their big driver.

All the multi culturists trying to make weak comparrisons with catholics etc. need to give it a rest, islam declares none muslims to be worthy of this treatment hence the isis approach to captured women (they are sold for $25 under islamic laws).This is the sort

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 05:38 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those people.

Of course they knew it was going on

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 06:48 PM
Cracking copy and post job, Ellis. At least two websites involved.

So your theory is that the Asian offenders in Rotherham think that they are Arab warriors and that their victims are the spoils of war?

It's an interesting theory.

So do you reckon that 'Christians' who abuse children are driven by Biblical passages as opposed to being twisted individuals?

I can copy and paste too:

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you - Deuteronomy 20:10-14..

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engage

stormmiller
31-08-2014, 07:40 PM
Some valid reasons for boycotting and not boycotting but basically your wasting your time people will continue to use taxi's,take always ect because they exist to serve a lazy people who don't care at 2am who serves them **** food and don't care who takes them home

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 08:46 PM
[quote="KerrAvon"]Cracking copy and post job, Ellis. At least two websites involved.

So your theory is that the Asian offenders in Rotherham think that they are Arab warriors and that their victims are the spoils of war?

It's an interesting theory.

So do you reckon that 'Christians' who abuse children are driven by Biblical passages as opposed to being twisted individuals?

I can copy and paste too:

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you - Deuteronomy 20:10-14..

If a man is caught in the

walter10
31-08-2014, 08:53 PM
Jesus was good and Mohammed a lying *****phile. And there endith my sermon on Moorgate Hill.

gramiller1959
31-08-2014, 08:59 PM
Yorkshire post - view external link (http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/columnists/bill-carmichael-left-and-their-big-fat-multi-cultural-lie-1-6811351)

jolly_roger
31-08-2014, 08:59 PM
This thread is truely amazing, pity some of the contributers have collar sizes bigger than their IQ.

Still, terrific cut and pasting

shiregreenmillers
31-08-2014, 09:01 PM
Jesus was good and Mohammed a lying *****phile. And there endeth my sermon on Moorgate Hill.Good lad walter I will see you on the 13th mate ;D ;D

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 09:44 PM
And you are quoting excerpts from the Torah to me, because?

Do you believe the Old Testament is how Christians live their lives?

You see, we live in a Christian country (not that I am gullible enough to believe in any religion or any God), where we follow the New Testament. Old Testament for Jews, New Testament for Christians.
I'm quoting the Bible at you. Are you saying that the Old Testament doesn't count? If so, how come many Christians discount evolution because it contradicts Genesis, how come our kids are taught about Noah (and Hollywood makes appalling films of that) and, most importantly how come the Ten Commandments are an important element of Christian faith?

Are you saying those Old Testament following Jews rape and pillage by the way?


[quote="Ellis_D"]Yes, the Old Testament has some very unsavoury passages and beliefs on raping, pillaging and murdering. But that was a much more p

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 09:56 PM
What are the good Muslims doing to stop the bad ones committing terror attacks, or grooming young, vulnerable WHITE girls? They know about these things, in their communities, in their mosques. of course they do.

What a load of b*llocks. Thats like me asking you what you did to stop Garry Glitter, Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall, Jimmy Saville committing their crimes[/quote]

No, it's not at all, that's just you being a moron. I don't live in the same town as any of those people. I don't live in a close knit community with any of those people.

I didn't see any of those people going around in taxis with young girls.

I didn't hear the whispers in my community about those celebrities and still turn a blind eye.

I didn't attend Mosques all the time with those

EmpireStateOfMind
31-08-2014, 10:04 PM
Being an atheist I find all these ancient fairy stories ridiculous, however, I think what you are quoting are the laws of the Qur'an related to Muslims not infidels.

Infidels are worthless.

Stop trying to make an excuse for them and stop using 'Asian' - they are of Pakistani origin not Chinese, Japanese or Indian.

We need our Pakistani community to pony up some evidence ands before foolish do-gooders like you open the floodgates for EDL hatred; there has to be a reaction to this and it needs to be driven from within.

If this had happened in reverse you and your ilk would be calling for a house to house search with dogs and a curfew on all Englishmen.

fivetide
31-08-2014, 10:05 PM
Both the bible and koran where twisted to make it fit with people's existing beliefs, especially the more druid based stuff in western europe.

Much of the two strands can be traced back to a lot of ancient philosophy and people simply trying to understand their world.

I recommend Sophie's World as a good introduction to this if you want to read more.

For centuries the islamic world was the centre for science and maths. The difference now is that while we are a "christian" nation we don't care. We don't go to church, we don't really care about many of the rules we had (see previous comments today's culture of fame).

However, what has happened is christianity has moved on. Gay and female vicars being brought in etc. None of that happening in islam. The way it is set up it is still stuck in the crusades.

KerrAvon
31-08-2014, 10:07 PM
@EmpireStateofMind. If you read the report, you'd know that at least 50s (not all Asian) were known in 2006. There is world of difference between knowing what people are doing and proving it.

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 10:14 PM
Jesus was good and Mohammed a lying *****phile. And there endith my sermon on Moorgate Hill.

That's about right. Do you have any quotes from Jesus or the teachings of Jesus, or do you have any quotes from Muhammad or the teachings of Muhammad that show otherwise?

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 10:17 PM
Yorkshire post

Come on all you apologists, read the article. Take your heads out of your arses and face the truth ffs!

S8_Miller
31-08-2014, 10:24 PM
Yorkshire post

Come on all you apologists, read the article. Take your heads out of your arses and face the truth ffs![/quote]

I can't really disagree with any of that article but what you fail to grasp so spectacularly is that most of the people on here are opposed to the blatant racism that is peddled by the EDL and others of their ilk.

Ellis_D
31-08-2014, 11:10 PM
And you are quoting excerpts from the Torah to me, because?

Do you believe the Old Testament is how Christians live their lives?

You see, we live in a Christian country (not that I am gullible enough to believe in any religion or any God), where we follow the New Testament. Old Testament for Jews, New Testament for Christians.
I'm quoting the Bible at you. Are you saying that the Old Testament doesn't count? If so, how come many Christians discount evolution because it contradicts Genesis, how come our kids are taught about Noah (and Hollywood makes appalling films of that) and, most importantly how come the Ten Commandments are an important element of Christian faith?

Are you saying those Old Testament following Jews rape and pillage by the way?


[quote="Ellis_D"]Yes, the Old Testament has some very unsavoury passages and beliefs on raping, pilla

John2
31-08-2014, 11:26 PM
Plus, let us simply look at Adolf Hitler's religious views while we are at it, plus those of Goebbels, both of who were very much anti-Christian, and very much atheist. How dare you, in that case, try to use the Holocaust as a way to beat Christians down. More despicable posting from yourself.

OK, lets look at Adolf Hitler's religious views.

From Mein Kampf: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

And in a speech, just to be specific about which Lord: "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."

How dare you use Hitler as a way to beat atheists down. Despicable posting from yourself.

Ellis_D
01-09-2014, 12:20 AM
Plus, let us simply look at Adolf Hitler's religious views while we are at it, plus those of Goebbels, both of who were very much anti-Christian, and very much atheist. How dare you, in that case, try to use the Holocaust as a way to beat Christians down. More despicable posting from yourself.

OK, lets look at Adolf Hitler's religious views.

From Mein Kampf: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

And in a speech, just to be specific about which Lord: "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."

How dare you use Hitler as a way to beat atheists down. Despicable posting from yourself.[/quote]

My word, are you for real? Mein Kampf was written in 1923, and published in 1925.

But let's just explore other passages from the same book

John2
01-09-2014, 07:51 AM
He sounds very much like he was a devout Christian to me. Again, do your research son if you don't want to be shown up in front of the rest of the forum.

So anything he said in Main Kampf is irrelevant?

OK, here's a quote from 1945, shortly before he died: "Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neither by virtue of its number nor by way of i

stormmiller
01-09-2014, 08:30 AM
He sounds very much like he was a devout Christian to me. Again, do your research son if you don't want to be shown up in front of the rest of the forum.

So anything he said in Main Kampf is irrelevant?

OK, here's a quote from 1945, shortly before he died: "Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neit

Heman
01-09-2014, 09:17 AM
I have boycotted the local taxi firms for about a year now. This is not race related in the ethnic sense but more that I think the drivers think they are in a race. They text and phone while risking my life. Then expect a tip. Last time I got out with my brother the driver said "don't thank me then" and my brother replied "thanks for the ride from hell...now f o "

luvpud
01-09-2014, 09:53 AM
[quote="Heman"[/quote]

If you recieve bad service during a taxi journey it's simple either get the drivers badge. Number or the taxi licence plate on the front or back of the car .
Once armed with this ring up your council and report the incident to them quoting the number so the driver can be identified and investigated and the matter resolved , ooh hang on a minute I think I have just seen a problem :blue: .

Ellis_D
01-09-2014, 11:01 AM
He sounds very much like he was a devout Christian to me. Again, do your research son if you don't want to be shown up in front of the rest of the forum.

So anything he said in Main Kampf is irrelevant?

OK, here's a quote from 1945, shortly before he died: "Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neit

EmpireStateOfMind
01-09-2014, 11:24 AM
These threads always seem to go awry.

All religion is without foundation and evidence - the burdon of proof is set aside for religion strangely. Incredible stories require incredible evidence in mine (and sciences) book.

This was about taking peaceful direct action to demonstrate to the Pakistani community that a reaction from them is expected and due. A tight knit community of 8000 that discuses this subject surely wants to be seen to be acting.

I despise the EDL and their fake concern for our wronged children. They will fuel the fires of bigotry supported by the deafening silence of the Pakistani community.

The taxi driver thread previously discussed was mild road rage linked to race, most people saw through this quite rightly.

rolymiller
01-09-2014, 11:28 AM
Ellis, what have I told you before? Turn your computer off and go for a long walk. You must have a dog or something to walk or shopping to do. Owt will do but please get away from Millersmad. Take a deep breath and think clearly about the ramblings you have been putting on here. We all make mistakes and have embarrassed ourselves on here at times none more so than me..it is not too late to rectify that and just leave it alone..please...

Ellis_D
01-09-2014, 11:32 AM
Ellis, what have I told you before? Turn your computer off and go for a long walk. You must have a dog or something to walk or shopping to do. Owt will do but please get away from Millersmad. Take a deep breath and think clearly about the ramblings you have been putting on here. We all make mistakes and have embarrassed ourselves on here none more so than me..it is not too late to rectify that and just leave it alone..please...

It's a very simple, but strange tactic you are using there roly.

Rather than debate the issue - obviously because you have nothing else to say to win the debate - you deflect from the issue entirely and just make silly posts.

You clearly have nothing to say in way of arguing what I have said, because you know it is all correct.

But, anyway, yes I will please you - I will leave it there.

rolymiller
01-09-2014, 11:46 AM
anything..anything you say...I am a beaten man..

All I will say to you is try to mix with a wide range of people from all different backgrounds..try to read arguments from different points of view and seriously at least consider them...you read stuff like Mein Kampf..read Marx stuff as well...question the stuff you read on ALL sides of the argument...be informed by facts and figures..educate yourself..be prepared to challenge even your own thoughts...it is such actions that makes us into intelligent balanced creatures...

brassgnat
01-09-2014, 12:06 PM
If someone from the council booked and paid for these taxis, then it is more difficult for taxi companies or drivers to refuse or question.

EmpireStateOfMind
01-09-2014, 02:23 PM
I thought the girls being trafficked were often propositioned or molested by their drivers.

The drivers could also have mentioned that they were ferrying very young girls to houses full of Pakistani rapists and back again. Have any come forward and offered such testimony?

EmpireStateOfMind
01-09-2014, 02:24 PM
OK, let's wait for the bloody EDL to help us sort this out then...

great_fire
01-09-2014, 02:36 PM
If you recieve bad service during a taxi journey it's simple either get the drivers badge. Number or the taxi licence plate on the front or back of the car .
Once armed with this ring up your council and report the incident to them quoting the number so the driver can be identified and investigated and the matter resolved , ooh hang on a minute I think I have just seen a problem :blue: .

And then you have Milton Keynes where the Pakistani Mayor is vouching for rapists so they can get taxi licences. - view external link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29009843)