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nil_desperandum
08-10-2014, 10:49 PM
Just watched it. (BBC 4). Not seen it for ages. I felt quite claustrophobic in my own front room witnessing those final dramatic hours played out in the Reichsbunker. I sat absolutely hypnotised by it for the full two and a half hours. Never moved out of my chair.
Bruno Ganz's performance as Hitler is chillingly realistic and gripping.
If you have never seen this film - other than the spoof extracts on youtube etc., (e.g.Hitler's reaction to " etc.), watch it on catch-up. The fact that it is in German with subtitles is no obstacle to your "enjoyment".

Bin_Ont_Turf
08-10-2014, 11:02 PM
Well someone had to :D ... - view external link (www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8HdDkDdNbY)

Quicknick
08-10-2014, 11:37 PM
I've just laughed my head off. Absolutely hilarious!!!!

ANuttyClaret
08-10-2014, 11:51 PM
I can't find it on Iplayer :(

nil_desperandum
09-10-2014, 09:39 AM
Thanks for that BOT. I was expecting more!:D

belgianclaret
09-10-2014, 09:44 AM
Brilliant film, seen it a couple of times and does not cease to intrigue.

If any of you are interested in gripping recounts and reviews of WWI and WW2, I can seriously recommend the books of Sebastian Haffner. His book on WW2 shows how agonisingly close Germany was to victory in 1941, only to be undone by a number of reckless decisions by Hitler.

Selby_Claret
09-10-2014, 10:20 AM
And another... :) - view external link (www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BHcjPLhvx8)

NottsClaret
09-10-2014, 10:32 AM
I watched Conspiracy last week, about 10 years after it came out. That's a good film too if you like your lessons from history.

Gunfury69
09-10-2014, 11:44 AM
Excellent film,it's films like this that make me feel sorry for the 'I can't watch subtitled movies' types

ClaretTony2014
09-10-2014, 12:07 PM
For some reason I've never seen it but I recorded it last night so will watch it later.

PragueClaret
09-10-2014, 02:31 PM
An excellent film. I've only ever seen it with Czech subtitles, so will give it another watch over the weekend.

Conspiracy is another great film, but intensely frightening in its portrayal of a bunch of bureaucrats planning genocide over a nice lunch.

theenclosure
09-10-2014, 02:38 PM
Link on BBC i player - view external link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b019hd3w/downfall)

ClaretTony2014
10-10-2014, 10:30 AM
"The fact that it is in German with subtitles is no obstacle to your "enjoyment"."


Watched it last night and I thought it was even better for being in German with the subtitles. As I'd said earlier in the thread, I'd not seen the film before but once it had started I just had to watch it the whole way through. Outstanding, and agree with the comments on the actor who played Hitler.

nil_desperandum
10-10-2014, 10:41 AM
Totally agree Tony, but some people just won't watch foreign language films that are subtitled.
When it is a subtitled film you have to give the film more concentration. This, as you correctly say, added to the intensity of the experience.
(No scanning developments on Clarets Mad whilst watching!)

the_quoon
10-10-2014, 10:44 AM
the german language and subtitles ruin this film.

much better to have a gang of hollywood stars playing germans with american accents like tom cruise in valkyrie.

nil_desperandum
10-10-2014, 12:46 PM
Sadly Quoon, there will be many who would take your post seriously and hold that view. It's all about celebrities and easy, comfortable viewing for some.

ClaretTony2014
10-10-2014, 12:53 PM
You are spot on about the level of concentration required when you have to read the subtitles. I don't think we'd got very far into the film when I realised my German wasn't good enough without them (about 10 seconds in I suspect).

I really did think it made it that much more authentic and added so much to the film.

Brilliant post quoon

Boliclaret
10-10-2014, 07:22 PM
Could have been worse, it could have been 'dubbed'.

My god how bad are foreign films when they've been dubbed? :/