View Full Version : Gawthorpe - it's so important

02-12-2015, 01:56 PM
My thoughts on Gawthorpe - see link - view external link (www.clarets-mad.co.uk/feat/edb4/gawthorpe__its_so_important_875799/index.shtml)

02-12-2015, 03:52 PM
I had no idea it was so bad there................................the investment will clearly help............................further good news for a bright future for our club.

Up the Clarets.................

The Bedlington Terrier
02-12-2015, 03:52 PM
It has been suggested that Eddie Howe kept on banging this particular drum and SD picked up the beat? Great news however it transpired. Well done BFC!

02-12-2015, 05:02 PM
Can't see where the new pitches are going to go, regarding the preservation of wetland habitat, from the photo. Why didn't they use the abandoned Main Gas site, it's massive, in fact probably big enough for a full stadium complex?

02-12-2015, 05:33 PM
pstotto........see link that shows position off all the pitches relative to the ponds. - view external link (http://www.burnley.gov.uk/attachments/APP20150463_1015%200463%20Figure%201%20-%20Pond%20Design.pdf)

02-12-2015, 06:01 PM
Cant wait for it to be finished and a new generation of Clarets super stars to be rolling off the Gawthorpe conveyor belt.

02-12-2015, 06:02 PM
Just out of interest, how much did Rovers spend on Brock Hall and Bolton on their facility ?

que raros
02-12-2015, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the article tony, good to see we are bringing all of the club's infrastructure up to date and hopefully allowing us to bring young players through.

02-12-2015, 07:32 PM
Excellent piece Tony.

Fingers crossed that this signals the start of the new conveyor belt in motion.


02-12-2015, 08:33 PM
I've just been on google earth, checking gawthorpe. Views are available for '00, '03, '09 &15. In most of them it looks like a training ground for motoX. Put your backs into it lads, we need this.

02-12-2015, 09:03 PM

Brockhall, Blackburn Rovers - 4.75m (2001?)

Eddie Davies Football Academy, Bolton Wanderers - 3m (2008)

02-12-2015, 09:32 PM
The new pitches there have already made a massive difference. I've been down three or four times this season and I can't believe I'm in the same area given how it was previously.

But the new work is going to take us to another level and beyond. There will be a building that can house everyone with all the modern facilities, another building with an indoor playing area and more new pictures, one a Desso to match the pitch on the Turf.

The indoor area will allow us to apply for EPPP Cat 2 and that will mean a massive difference in the quality of teams we'll come up against at all levels up to under-21.

Another massive move forward by our club.

02-12-2015, 09:47 PM

02-12-2015, 11:41 PM
Just hope ours produces better quality than theirs. UTC. That was big money spent by Rovers in 2001 .

03-12-2015, 06:16 AM
Excellent article CT. My immediate thoughts are that It will secure Burnley for our children and grandchildren and for many generations to come. In the context this is bigger news than any new CFS or multi million pound signing. Granted both are important but lets get the infrastructure in place as a priority and over time get back to what we are about producing and developing players on a regular basis who can progress. The future will then take care of itself.

03-12-2015, 08:18 AM
Yes, great read Tony. The late 70's, 80's and early 90's have a lot to answer for in us slipping so far behind. It's nice that we're not having to mortgage the club to catch up with a lot, and beyond others.

All our current investment has been hard earned,many it feels really good that these majorly positive things are happening to our club.

03-12-2015, 10:44 PM
It's building on a flood plain and eating into green belt land. I'm a BFC fan, but Main Gas is a brownfield site tht should have been used instead.

03-12-2015, 11:24 PM
No comments. That's because it's a scandal.

03-12-2015, 11:26 PM
pstotto, I know its useless posting this to you but im sure surveyors and architects and engineers etc etc looked at these plans.
They probably found Main gas too big a to compete with for BFC.

03-12-2015, 11:49 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by that 'too big a'. You would have thought that it was looked at, but don't bank on it. The Main Gas site is ideal and not a few hundred yards from Gawthorpe.

04-12-2015, 12:09 AM
Like I said, posting to you.

04-12-2015, 10:39 AM

04-12-2015, 11:00 AM
Sorry to burst people's bubbles but a lot has changed from the days of Stevens. Our best line ups in history derived a lot from the youth set-up of the club but nowadays it's a different story. There's too much competition at youth level and even being cat 2 is no guarantee to produce any better talent in the future, look at Crewe. Past few years they made maybe 7 million from selling players yet being a cat 2 status means they pay out at least a million each year to simply fund it.
The real money to be made in today's game is doing what we have been doing already and that's signing young promising lads from other clubs, developing them and selling them on. Think Trippier, Austin, Ings.

Everyone loves the Rodriguez story but I'm afraid upgrading the youth facilities isn't going to solve the main problem which is the quality of youth players coming in. It's apparent we've almost given up with the youth team prospect by instead signing young stars from other clubs instead.

04-12-2015, 11:38 AM
We're not just upgrading the youth facilities though are we.

04-12-2015, 12:18 PM
Nope we are also building ( if that's the correct phrase ) 4 ponds.... ;-)

04-12-2015, 12:25 PM
I'm still waiting for an answer as to why the brownfield site nearby isn't being used instead? This isn't BFC in harmony with Padiham, it's just using the area

04-12-2015, 12:28 PM
Only Burnley could have "fans" who could find a negative in this.

04-12-2015, 12:29 PM
Perhaps because one is owned by the Club while the other one isn't?

04-12-2015, 12:50 PM
That will be it, why didn't anyone else think of that...... but lets not let facts get in the way of a good old moan.

04-12-2015, 01:01 PM
pstotto - there are myriad reasons why the Main Gas site isn't being used. As jtv states, the fact the club doesn't own it is an obvious one. Second is that the Main Gas site has development value as something other than a set of football pitches. It is allocated in the Council's emerging Local Plan as a housing site which, at around 8 hectares, could accommodate around 200-300 new homes. So for BFC to buy it, they'd have to make an offer at market value based on residential land values. The third reason is that the likely cost of remediation of a brownfield site is huge. Do you really want BFC to spend millions acquiring the site, followed by further millions on demolition and decontamination costs just to create a field on the edge of Padiham? Not just that, but there isn't a bank in the world that would lend you the money to buy a housing site that you would immediately devalue by turning it into a training ground.

But perhaps the most compelling argument for supporting the deve

04-12-2015, 01:46 PM
Here, Here * nods head with a light, slow clap *

04-12-2015, 02:09 PM
SMC should post more often.

04-12-2015, 02:11 PM
Those aint fields thems be buildings. A big factory like building in a field IS URBAN SPRAWL.. Thanks for replying to my concerns, folks.

04-12-2015, 02:16 PM
How many of you BFC fans have even been to Padiham and know the town?

04-12-2015, 03:43 PM
Been where?
Where's that?

05-12-2015, 12:04 AM
Soon to be next to Padidasham...

05-12-2015, 10:41 AM
Also known locally as Padidash' em.

05-12-2015, 10:49 AM
The best news to come out of the club for years.

Excellent post SMC_Claret

05-12-2015, 11:57 PM

06-12-2015, 08:35 AM
One thing to add, the Gawthorpe project is not just about new up and coming players.
It will also improve the working environment for 1st team players/staff and attract players into signing for the club. It may sway players who have different options into coming to Burnley rather than going elsewhere.
It's also another part of an overall master plan in developing the facilities for staff at both Turf Moor and Gawthorpe.