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thedonz
26-08-2017, 11:07 AM
What is it now , 4 or 5 seasons Sean Dyche has been our manager?

That's a good number of players in that time, but which one has he improved the most.

You can include as many players you want but please conclude with the one you think has come on the best. Should be tough .

outwoodclaret
26-08-2017, 11:32 AM
Must be Michael Keane because he was no way the finished article when he arrived. Other than that Sam Vokes.

sinkov
26-08-2017, 12:34 PM
Scott Arfield for me. Huddersfield didn't think he was good enough for the Championship when Sean signed him, and first time I saw him I didn't think so either. We ended up with a very good Championship player and one who could, if only just, hold his own in the PL. Worked a miracle with Scotty did Sean imo.

The Bedlington Terrier
26-08-2017, 01:05 PM
No brainer this one!

Sean Dyche and Billy Mercer have made Tom Heaton the pick of the current England goalkeepers in my opinion.

I also think he has improved Lowton, Mee, Ward, Arfield, Vokes and Kevin Long.

thedonz
26-08-2017, 04:27 PM
One of Dyche's keynotes is that when one player leaves it's a great opportunity for another player. Step up Sam Vokes , who up to replacing Austin was a bit part player at both Burnley and every other club he'd been at. But Sam has been a full international for Wales since the age of 17 so doesn't get my vote.

If you include development of temperament then Joey Barton has to be up there.

Some great shouts in other posts but after a lot of thought I'm giving my vote to Matthew Lowton . He came to us shellshocked after suffering in a poor Villa side. My first impression of him was that he was a little restricted in mobility . I have seen a lot of improvement in both his mobility and spacial awareness. Plus I love his Mona Lisa smile.

Altobelli
26-08-2017, 04:45 PM
Danny Ings for me, when he went down with that injury who would have thought he'd come back the way he did, seemed a very different (better) player to me.

Altobelli
26-08-2017, 04:48 PM
Plus I love his Mona Lisa smile.

Strange quote that, how would someone who finds Teresa May attractive know anything about Mona Lisa's smile http://i65.tinypic.com/xb03mu.jpg

thedonz
26-08-2017, 05:20 PM
😠 😂

The Bedlington Terrier
26-08-2017, 06:49 PM
For the donz...

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sinkov
27-08-2017, 12:11 PM
No brainer this one!

Sean Dyche and Billy Mercer have made Tom Heaton the pick of the current England goalkeepers in my opinion.



I'm not knocking Sean or Billy but I don't think they've improved Tom all that much since he arrived.

I can remember a home game against Bristol City, back end of the 12/13 season, they were awful, we were murdering them, but we just couldn't beat their keeper, he was playing us on his own. I'd just about despaired of us ever beating him when we finally scored after about an hour, Bristol gave up completely and we added another two, but that goalkeeping performance was one of the best I've seen, ever. And of course I'd no idea who this guy was, so I went home, got on the internet, and found he was called Tom Heaton and they'd signed him from Cardiff, before then I'd never heard of him and that was all I knew about him. A month later we signed Tom Heaton, and as I was never a fan of Lee Grant, it was like Xmas had come early for me.

That first season I thought he might have done better with Ollie Norwood's long range shot at Huddersfield, that apart he was faultless, and he has been virtually faultless ever since. So it's my contention that he already was one of the best keepers in England when we signed him, but of course playing in the Championship he wasn't on the pundit's radar screens. Sean and Billy haven't done him any harm, no doubt they've improved his game marginally, but they can't take too much credit, he was the finished article when he arrived.

The Bedlington Terrier
27-08-2017, 12:32 PM
I am now totally convinced sinkov that if I said Black, you would immediately say White!

He was nowhere near the England team when he was at Bristol City. Sean Dyche has convinced Tom that not being 6' 6" is not a hindrance.

He was like Dracula with crosses when he first arrived, Billy Mercer soon sorted that out. I remember the Bristol City game really well and his performance during that particular game.

The lass who sits next to me at our home games fell in love that day...

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sinkov
28-08-2017, 08:33 AM
Well then BT, that's another of your convictions that's totally wrong. Whoever had posted that, I would have given my opinion that I thought it an exageration to say Dyche had improved Heaton more than any other player he's worked with. And of course he wasn't near the England squad, England managers tend not to look for players at the bottom end of the Championship. I don't recognise this Dracula nonsense either, I've seen a few of our keepers who did give Drac a run for his money, Tom isn't one of them. By goalkeeping standards he's on the small side, he prefers to stay on his line unless he's absolutely certain he can get the ball, he was like that when arrived, he still is.
And don't be so bloody paranoid, you were only saying a few days ago we were agreeing too much, now I disagree with everything you say, so which is it ? You're sounding like Boris, pro having cake and pro eating it.