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great_fire
10-10-2018, 04:00 PM
Anyone got any ideas as it's getting a bit ridiculous now.

Get a psychologist in?

Try 4-4-2?

Prayers?

rolymiller
10-10-2018, 04:08 PM
Psychology may not be a bad idea he's got em believing we can do it at home but not away yet. Think if we can just sneak a point fairly soon we might get on a reasonable roll. Belief is a big thing in any kind of sport.

great_fire
10-10-2018, 04:16 PM
Knowing our luck though he'd bring a psychologist in and then we'd start losing at home as well!

Still I'm not quite convinced by Warne's argument that if we carry on playing the same way the point(s) will eventually come.

Lolmorgan
10-10-2018, 04:47 PM
Middlesbrough away next, easy away win.Throw the old kitchen sink at them.

Lolmorgan
10-10-2018, 04:49 PM
Knowing our luck though he'd bring a psychologist in and then we'd start losing at home as well!

Still I'm not quite convinced by Warne's argument that if we carry on playing the same way the point(s) will eventually come.
So will Tomorrow.

mellowmiller
10-10-2018, 06:01 PM
So will Tomorrow.

Tomorrow never comes.

ackworth miller
10-10-2018, 07:37 PM
Warne has mentioned himself multiple times the famous quote: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" and used it for justification for having to make changes in the past. Well Warney, this needs to be applied to our away form at the moment, as our current set-up is getting us absolutely no points. I was trying to tell myself performances are getting better and we are getting closer to an away result.

However, the Birmingham result convinced me something must change if we are to get some away points. Not just small changes, but let's make BIG CHANGES. Otherwise we will not be able to accumulate enough points at home to beat the drop! Lets go 4-4-2 to start with, and go into games trying to ATTACK opponents. Doubt this will happen as the Brentford result scared Warney off this approach, but I do think this was a one off given it was the first game of the season in a new league against a great opponent.

BigLadonOS
10-10-2018, 09:41 PM
3-1-4-2 is the way to go and has been since the first game.

sawmiller
10-10-2018, 10:11 PM
3-1-4-2 is the way to go and has been since the first game.

injury list not helping

BigLadonOS
10-10-2018, 10:39 PM
injury list not helping

True, but hopefully after the break we should be ok

mellowmiller
11-10-2018, 06:23 AM
3-1-4-2 is the way to go and has been since the first game.

You seem very certain about that. Are you a proven Championship manager with all your coaching badges?
Just askin' 😊

Lolmorgan
11-10-2018, 09:43 AM
Letís try 3-4-3 & entertainment the away fans for a change.Like my dad used to say try owt once.

Lolmorgan
11-10-2018, 10:15 AM
You seem very certain about that. Are you a proven Championship manager with all your coaching badges?
Just askin' 😊

I would say NO but then again neither is Warne.

tom12026
11-10-2018, 10:32 AM
Let’s try 3-4-3 & entertainment the away fans for a change.Like my dad used to say try owt once.

I agree-Iwent to Hillsborough once>;)

rolymiller
11-10-2018, 10:54 AM
3-1-4-2 is the way to go and has been since the first game.

I take it that would be summat like (assuming all fit):

Rodak

Vyner, Wood, Robertson


Ajayi

Williams, Towell, Manning, Vassell

Smith, Proctor


Could be worth a try to be fair

mellowmiller
11-10-2018, 12:05 PM
I take it that would be summat like (assuming all fit):

Rodak

Vyner, Wood, Robertson


Ajayi

Williams, Towell, Manning, Vassell

Smith, Proctor


Could be worth a try to be fair

Hope none of our opponents play speedy wingers then. They would have a field day.

rolymiller
11-10-2018, 01:02 PM
True enough Williams and vassel would have to track back. V yner and Robertson have played as full backs so maybe they could cope with help.

rolymiller
11-10-2018, 01:04 PM
Don't forget we would have the speedy ajay i as well covering. As they say onmovies where plans are just getting to the desperate stage, It could just work!

thaimillerfan
11-10-2018, 01:15 PM
Need to buy a bit of quality A striker A midfielder and a fullback

CAMiller
11-10-2018, 02:46 PM
I'm no expert but was going to suggest a radical 4-4-4-4 until I realised we don't have a big enough squad XD

Brin
11-10-2018, 03:11 PM
Don't know what the team talk is away from home but, we are showing teams too much respect and let them attack us. at NYS we go at them from the start like we don't give respect who's in town. It's all in their heads and Warne should be instilling the 'no respect' issue before a ball is kicked.

Yes we are suffering with injuries but strangely we seem not to have a problem with this at home so that doesn't wash with me.

It's 11v 11 when the ref blows his whistle, so what is the problem? It seems we're seeing a psychological repeat of away syndrome like when Warne initially took over and he's got to get this barrier cracked and very soon.

NB. Quick thought, Double their bonus win on away games see if that helps.

flourbasher
11-10-2018, 03:14 PM
Mo Salah on loan in January

Brin
11-10-2018, 03:15 PM
'Oh one man went to Mow went to mow a .....'

I'll get mi coat

mellowmiller
11-10-2018, 03:20 PM
Mo Salah on loan in January

He's not good enough! Have you seen the way he's performing for Liverpool this season? We don't want another bench warmer 😊

mellowmiller
11-10-2018, 03:28 PM
Don't forget we would have the speedy ajay i as well covering. As they say onmovies where plans are just getting to the desperate stage, It could just work!

To be honest Roly, I think the best we can hope for in away matches under Warne is
4-1-4-1 with Ajayi playing the holding role when everyone is fit.
I can't see him ever playing 2 up top but having Smith as the lone striker would work so much better if we had a midfielder who made threatening runs into the box to feed off his hold up play. Frecks anyone? We certainly haven't replaced him.

rolymiller
11-10-2018, 03:48 PM
Yep realistically I think that is probably the best way with what we have got mellow.

bogsdollox
11-10-2018, 04:07 PM
Get Warney to quit !:)

Nardendee
11-10-2018, 08:23 PM
We need to start picking up points away from home or it could severely damage our play off hopes, although an automatic promotion spot may already be out of reach.

Hazza Has A Gazza
12-10-2018, 01:23 AM
We could try drugging the opposition. Or hire a sniper.