Burnley's First Goal Sweep 2014/15
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Yes experience is useful but to sign so many almost players on contracts which will take them beyond SD's reign is disturbing. One year contracts maybe, any more troubling.
The club appear to be falling into the trap they did in Laws time of quantity over quality.
Fearful of their mistakes in signing youth over experience last time they have gone to the other extreme.
Youth has to be our way forward and identifying young talent our number one priority. It's a nice mixture of youth and experience that have got us here but we seem to have forgotten that in our rush for security. For me a big mistake. 16 August 2014 10:02 Started on 'Eli's' forum
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And of course for a while the Messiah continued to deliver, we did get lift off and he proved a little more adept in on-field planning than the few critics he had thought likely. Even approaching the denouement the names mentioned as incoming loanees still excited, young up and coming stars.
The rest of course is history.
Why then does the run up to this camapign appear so different, almost anti-climactic.
Yes there is an underlying layer of excitement but the overall feel is one of slightly disappointed cynicism and this is before a ball is kicked.
What's the difference?
Well we certainly have a more proficient manager who shares many of the attributes of OC without theaccompanying paraphanalia, and yet of course many still remain uncertain of his tenure and what will happen when he leaves.
We have a squad which has more solidity and purpose than last time and yet of course it does lack a little of that sparkle which Elliott Eagles Blake Jay and even at that time McCann provided, and those signings, mostly unknown youngsters gave hope and expectation. This time around the signings have been more thoughtful but less eye catching. No young starlets picked out of obscurity, solid some might say staid professionals here to do a job of work. but would we have expected anything else from SD?
But that of course leaves Ings and the doubts surrounding him, the paucity of strength in midfield and the concerns about the centre of defence. Last time these vulnerabilities didn't concern us, we'd returned to the sun that was all that mattered. This time its more serious. Perhaps the clubs future is not at stake but to pass-up this second opportunity to secure it long-term stability would appear folly.
Now we want more than a year in the sun, the stakes are higher. Are we good enough to survive. That is the question ?
And the answer, well none of us know. If Ings leaves, the mountain would become an extremely arduous one to climb, already there is too little special match-turning talent in the side and to lose him could make us pedestrian at best, and yet last season this side proved itself capable of wheeling off performance after performance, there is more to it than the sum of its parts.
But for me at least getting lift-off is all important. After 10 games one would hope for 15 points, then I think this side could aim for the top 10, 5 or below and it will be a very long season.At present despite the lack of those marquee signings there is room for optimism. Here's hoping Mr Ings gives us one more year of endeavour before returning to warmer climes. 07 August 2014 08:28 Started on 'Eli's' forum
Without him we'll struggle big time, so forget the contract business and get behind the player.
He is the one player we have who can cause opposition managers a headache, just be glad we've got him.
Bye. 02 August 2014 10:27 Started on 'Eli's' forum
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Many of us suspected the defence would be amongst the meanest in the division, and Ings and Vokes always looked a likely pair although they both exceeded expectations by some margin, but it was in midfield that SD's real success lay. To link Jones and Marney proved a masterstroke, and one few on here would I believe have predicted to be so successful, but to add Arfield to that mix was to my mind the reason this side succeeded. He and to a lesser extent Kightley added non stop energy and no little skill, it meant we had no weak spots, it was a complete unit and one that showed it had the resilience and self belief to battle through the tough times that inevitably came towards the end, and of course SD showed that sticking to a plan can work even when some charlatons like myself are calling for a greater degree of flexibility. he deserves the utmost credit.
Now of course as promised, promotion sees the demise of abc, and not before time I can hear some of you shouting, but before meeting his waterloo just a few thoughts from abroad on next season and the future of this club.
(1)Its good we've got no fancy giveaways on season tickets which cost us so dear last time, but lets hope the directors don't call in their loans all at once. We will need much more financial freedom than we did last time if this club is trully to move forward.I've a great deal more confidence in the Board this time but lets wait and see.
(2)Lets get the Youth and development squad sorted along with Academy status. Do we still see developing youth talent as our way forward or should we be buying in young players from lower division clubs. A clear decision needs to be made as to the viable way forward, and that must to my mind mean the resurrection of a reserve team playing competitive matches.
(3)Squad size. Now its always been my belief that a small squad works best both from a players perspective and a managers and I hope we keep with that philosophy.18-20 would always be best in my eyes but certainly no more than 22.It may be prudent in the first year in the division to be more flexible than the ideal because one is looking in a sense in both directions. That to me means getting players on short contracts (12 months) with good bonuses for staying up. A reassessment can be done again at the end of the season.
(4) When it comes to recruitment I don't see that much need, possibly a centre-back, a couple of midfielders and a couple of strikers given that Vokes might not have much of a role to play next year, possibly three if Ings departs.
(5)When it comes to retention,I'd be offering Edgar, Lafferty and Long 12 month contracts along possibly with Stanislas, and be prepared to lose Trippier and Ings if they decide to take bigger salaries elsewhere. They would be big losses but unity of purpose has been shown to be more important.We need players with a hunger to play for Burnley and whilst Sd is here I think we will get that.
(6) As for the manager, well he's bound to be wanted, although managing a tight knit squad like ours is very different from dealing with a squad of super-egos. Hopefully the Board are prepared for the possibility of his departure but at the same time willing to finance his improvement of this side as in many ways they did with OC, at least until that fateful New Year period.
So that leaves me just to say, farewell and the hope that it some considerable time until I return to this Board, although of course the departure of SD might just see me back tracking, but that's not going to happpen, is it ?
OP seems to want to bow out gracefully so thread closed. 22 April 2014 22:46 Started on 'Eli's' forum
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Every match of course is crucial and playing it that way has got SD's team where it is, but today and Saturdays match against Leeds are crucial if this side is to make it to the promised land. We know Burnley never like making things easy, and this is a very heady position to be in, but there are as other teams are finding out a very thin line between success and failure, and one defeat can easily lead to a second, so a result against Birmingham tonight be it draw or win is vital to keep this season and side on course to the success they so richly deserve, and set them up for what is bound to be another adrenaline sapping encounter against Leeds.
Sometime in the next few weeks we are going to discover just how well this side can deal with adversity, the signs are good but the further away they can get from the pack now, the better. 12 March 2014 08:11 Started on 'Eli's' forum
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Of course the hope is that promotion will bring with it an end to our financial constraints, but of course they have to be considering also the outcome if it should allude us.
Whatever the end of the season brings certain issues arise.
(1)We may need a new manager, promotion or otherwise. SD will attract attention and offers whatever happens.
(2)Ings Vokes and Trippier are all likely to depart whatever the outcome.
(3)If we get promotion a fair bit of pruning of staff will be necessary.
(4)The Board will have to decide on squad size, if we fail its likely to remain about 20 or so, but if we get promoted are we going back to the bloated squad agenda. I hope not.
(5)Promotion brings questions about our youth set-up, is it worth it, when we can't even produce Division 1 players.
(6)The Board will have to consider the loans they have made, will they all be repaid like last time, leaving us short of cash or will a longer term view be adopted.
(7)How will they address the balance between ground and players expenditure.
(8)How will our recruitment policy change, young hopefuls, experienced hands, etc.
(9)How will they handle wage demands and keep us safe from the problems that relegation brings.
A lot of course rests on the continued success of an excellent side and manager but lets hope the Board are addressing these matters now and will not be caught short as our last directors were. 03 March 2014 16:50 Started on 'Eli's' forum
For us to have a chance of gaining automatic promotion I'd say three points are absolutely essential, anything less and Derby will become hot favourites for that second place. 28 February 2014 15:00 Started on 'Eli's' forum