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I keep on hearing lads, lasses, mates, family, associates, geeks, freaks and every ****ers dog say we're judging him on his whole time.
He's almost certainly going to be here next season, so rather than just going along with biased sh1t and blaming him for everything lets still be fair eh?
We werenít moaning last season, we might not be moaning next season yet...
This season has been appalling, itís obvious that on the whole thereís only going to be negatives taken from it.
But I see a lot of twisting going on and its boring, in fact its delusional tbh.
It was the players ALONE that got us to 5th... So itís their fault for this season's failure then?
If not and it was mainly Pardewís fault, then he should take massive credit for last season?
Ah o.k. he was lucky last season...So this season he's been incredibly unlucky?
No he's just been found out...So the previous season he managed to pull the wool over everyoneís eyes and fluked his way through 38 games to be rated by many professionals and peers as the best performing manager in arguably the best league in the world?
No other Newcastle manager has done this. (Probably because they werenít southernerís though)
Yeah but that doesn't mean sh1t, George Burley won manager of the year too...Yeah but George Burley also got Ipswich relegated the following year and for every George Burley thereís a David Moyes
Some players were outstanding last season... Well thatís usually going to be the case if you want to finish 5th
Some goals were amazing, even freakish... Certain wins definitely glossed over certain performances, although if you can play poorly and still win, you're definitely doing something right.
We definitely didn't this season thatís for ****ing sure.
The football has mainly been sh1t...We need to improve on this, we're definitely showing signs of improvement, in fact in spells yesterday we not only looked very fluid but we were also the better team. To say Arsenal were going all out I thought they were lucky to get the win tbh. We werenít great by any means though.
But when was the last time we consistently played attractive successful footy?
No other ****er would have come in and got us playing like Barca and finish 5th, we're NOT Barcelona ffs.
Yeah it should be miles better than it has been, but can you say that there is absolutely no evidence that we could eventually play good football, consistently and effectively under Pardew?
I want to see the game played properly, a lot of teams can play good football that is successful without playing like Barcelona, Arsenal or Swansea, I think Pardew is definitely capable of doing that.
We need to stop comparing us to top teamís man, we havenít been for years and arent back there yet. Pardew helped raise expectations here again, I rated Hughton big time but donít delude yourself into thinking he would have. Most used to moan about Hughtonís direct tactics and "Yes man attitude"...short memories man.
I said Europe was achievable and was "deluded" because of the team we had ffs, 16th or even 10th isn't acceptable to me, we've got a top 7 team and more importantly we're a top 7 club.
Has one man really derailed that though?
But he's making the same mistake here as he did previously at other clubs...
Thatís not entirely true, he has definitely failed miserably previously, especially at Charlton granted, most managers have though.
He almost got Reading promoted in his first season to fizzy pop when they were expected to fight relegation
He got them promoted
Finished 4th in the Championship, eventually missing out on a consecutive promotion.
At WHU he got to the play off final in his first year, they lost.
He then achieved promotion to the Prem.
He then finished 9th with EL qualification and was VERY unlucky not to have won the F.A cup after a 3-3 draw with the bindippers and losing on penno's
West Ham also played decent attacking football.
Following year went on their worse run in 70 years, knocked out EL in first round, got drubbed against Bolton and was sacked.
Definitely a bad year for him and re-iterates the fact that he's capable of great highs and extreme lows.
Charlton were already in the sh1t when he took over in 19th and he failed to keep them up, he certainly couldn't be blamed for their relegation though.
He then had a sh1t season, finishing mid-table and was sacked the following year because he showed no sign of improvement...We can safely say Pardew did a sh1t job at Charlton.
Soton wasn't great but it was definitely an improvement.
They had a 10 point deduction and finished 7 points outside the play-offs
He won the St Johnstoneís paint trophy, fair enough itís like a Blue Peter badge but itís taken seriously by lower level fl teams.
For every failure there has been a promotion. He has improved since being relegated with Charlton too.
(I haven't done yet) 20 May 2013 20:09 Started on 'DAN'S DOMAIN' forum
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How about this;
Mik Ashley issues a statement today...
Regretfully if we lose the game against Arsenal we will have no other choice but to relieve Pardiola (remember that name?) of his managerial duties.
I wonder what "fans" opinions on here would be then?
I'm sure it wouldn't make a difference or if it did the excuse would probably be that its a meaningless game and that we could then look forward to k1ssing a Spaniards arse for a year if he achieved what was expected/overachieved (depending how you view it) and then turn on the coont the minute we faltered and the team underperformed, which was below our now delusional perspectives and expectations.
Will you cheer if Pardew goes? Applauding our failures or would it be welcoming the new "messiah" with his wand and vast knowledge in wait for that success that he's definitely going to bring with him?
Also, whats going to happen if they keep Pardew? You gonna want him and ultimately the team/club to fail in order to get that tactical genius we have been missing?
Or will you then want him to succeed for the clubs sake?
If its the latter and he does succeed would your opinion then change towards him?
You can reel off the negatives, facts and/or blatant bullsh1t as much as you like.
Fact is you're either;
A supporter of someone/something when things are going well and a hater when they're not.
A supporter with one eye open looking for someone to blame when things are going wrong, using the closed one to believe that someone else is going to fix it and then whilst its working you could'nt give a ****.
Generally have your head screwed on (abit twisted) think your eyes are wide open and will back up your decision with facts but ONLY with the negative information that you're choosing to justify your stance with. A negative situation isn't going to have many positives afterall.
You're trying to look at our situation from all angles fairly as its involving the club you love, although the situation changes, you're opinion will adapt but wont blindly use information to form your judgement, you might go with sacking Pardew, ya might go with giving him another season. But you're definitely not deluded to the opposing stance whichever one you choose.
Theres no right or wrong one, we all "love" the club.
IF Pardew goes, I'll back (e.g) Benitez.
I dont think he is going to be sacked and even after the sh1t season we've had, he's got my backing. I think he'll turn it round and we'll have a good season.
Reality is, if we do, some would still want him to fail or go.
Martinez was manager of Wigan and they were relegated this season, he also won the cup last week, which one is down to him?
Does the former now make him a bad manager?
Afterall it is down to one man innit...
I havent seen one of those coonts blame him, sh1t Martinez put relegation down to their defensive injury crisis and did'nt get called a deluded coont making excuses once...
Or is he excused because Wigan play good football?
Footballs not "fickle"? bollox
I'll be gannin SJP hoping to beat Arsenal, not because of Pardew, but because I support united.
Think some of you should do aswell, instead of sitting in the dark with square eyes having a pull hoping its Pardews last game in charge. 18 May 2013 11:18 Started on 'DAN'S DOMAIN' forum
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