Look at the previous post to that one and you'll see that I said it very much with 'tongue in cheek'!
Printable View
You're basically right but it's an extremely optimistic, almost utopian vision. It's like saying if everyone bought organic our farmers would stop using pesticides, if everyone bought from farmers' markets farmers would make enough money to feed their livestock properly and not cut corners, if everyone bought Fairtrade then third world poverty would be drastically reduced.
All of those things are true but people look for the best quality/price/convenience ratio, even when the most rational individial decision is not the most rational collective decision. That's why people buy cars from Germany, smartphones from Asia and £3 chickens full of antibiotics.
It really, really isn't. Because the EU doesn't give 'free trade deals' to other countries which are bigger markets than ours.
They won't give us the biggest benefit of being in the EU (the single market) without all the other arguably less desirable things that make it work economically (economic union, freedom of movement) because then everyone would leave and it would cease to exist.
I know you love simple solutions, especially if they involve socking it to Johnny Foreigner, but two years ago you were the one saying Merkel would bow to our every demand under pressure from German industry.
That didn't work out very well did it? Obviously being completely wrong hasn't made you doubt yourself one bit though.
It might look like satire but he was being deadly serious. The poster in question was asking for an explanation of trade deficits the other week because he didn't understand them, now he's apparently an expert on trade negotiations, but that's Brexit in a nutshell really isn't it?
This No-Deal petition is nearly at 266,500
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963
Nope, I’m not taking the piss and I’m serious. Just because you have a short term economic argument for remain, it doesn’t make you right. We have been in deficit to the EU, for nigh on 40 years... at what point do we say, enough is enough?
... and at the end of the day, this is much much more than about economics, it’s about democracy and our right to exist as an independent nation, that is at stake.
https://twitter.com/davidtat2d2/stat...894505984?s=21
... Grantham is absolutely right. For the short sighted Remoaners the negotiation is just about to start. The so-called Withdrawal Agreement and Political Accord documents are nothing more than patronising Establishment Munich-style papers to fool the masses and not worth the paper they're written on. When Germany finally admits that two can play hard-ball we may get somewhere. Out x no deal will make them sit up and we will get what we want. Meanwhile Remoaners need to calm down and look beyond the short term
I agree, and I can add to your list. Those dim bulbs who believe we will all be better off because we're not sending billions to the nasty EU any more, those who think the NHS will now be much better funded, those who think that because we're Brits we can give the EU a good kicking, and those who think Nigel Farage is the real way forward (sorry, couldn't resist that one).
Rule Britannia and God save the Queen (snigger).