Words fail me...

Afternoon. Nice day for a bit of karchering (I had to look that word up).

As you say, rough sleeping is not as high as in the past but it is still a very solvable problem. And giving the rough sleepers a spot fine is not a viable solution (unless you think it is?)

http://www.mcrlibdems.org.uk/441_peo...ter_manchester

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Sorry to intrude upon the 'Royal' debate with the latest facts and figures,

Crown Estate contribution to the Treasury...£343 million.
Treasury contribution to royal building maintenance, mostly Buckingham Palace...£33 million
Sovereign Grant contribution to converting Frogmore Cottage into a house for the Duke and Duchess of Suffolk...£2.4 million.

Draw your own conclusions. O:)

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I conclude they should all be living in social housing in Wythenshawe.

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Originally Posted by 1959_60

Afternoon. Nice day for a bit of karchering (I had to look that word up).

As you say, rough sleeping is not as high as in the past but it is still a very solvable problem. And giving the rough sleepers a spot fine is not a viable solution (unless you think it is?)

http://www.mcrlibdems.org.uk/441_peo...ter_manchester

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Didn't Boris have some water-cannon going cheap ?>;)

...and probably a load of cheap plants from the Garden Bridge too :)

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Didn't Boris have some water-cannon going cheap ?>;)

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I tried to buy one of those at a knock down price to scare away the Tories and Lib Dems when they come door knocking, but it had already been hived off somewhere...:blue:

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Originally Posted by sinkov

And I'm simply reporting the facts BT, the latest homeless number I can find is less than half what it was in 2003, not my figures, you'll have to take it up with the Department for Communities and Local Government, and income inequality has barely altered for many years, again not my figures, I gave you the source, you can check those figures out as well.

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Here we go again more FAKE NEWS from the Clitheroe Kid. I65% increase in 9 years sinkov. https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/31/165-i...power-8419274/

Here you are BT,

"Around 59,000 households were accepted by councils as entitled to be housed in 2016/17. This number has been rising since 2009/10, and is up by almost 50% over that period. However, it’s 56% below the level of 2003/04, when 135,000 households were accepted."

https://fullfact.org/economy/homelessness-england/

Scroll down for the graph which shows the peak in 2003 after 6 years of Labour government, just like I said. Of course it's a problem, but there's no problem under the sun that isn't made worse by a Labour government.

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Here you are BT,

"Around 59,000 households were accepted by councils as entitled to be housed in 2016/17. This number has been rising since 2009/10, and is up by almost 50% over that period. However, it’s 56% below the level of 2003/04, when 135,000 households were accepted."

https://fullfact.org/economy/homelessness-england/

Scroll down for the graph which shows the peak in 2003 after 6 years of Labour government, just like I said. Of course it's a problem, but there's no problem under the sun that isn't made worse by a Labour government.

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Have a proper read sinkov, the Labour Party is looking at the means to fund local councils with CPO's to purchase and renovate the one million unoccupied homes in this country. Affordable homes that do not require the desecration of greenfield sites nor the heavy cost of ensuring brownfield sites are safe. Land banks, second homes, buy to rent for profit driven people, will be side stepped by an initiative that provides housing for the many not the privileged few. The plan also retains the character and heritage of our older homes. http://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uplo...Many-final.pdf

Missing the point BT, you talked about all those homeless people you saw on the streets of Manchester, the stats show that if you wandered round Manchester in 2003, you would have seen twice as many homeless people on the streets, after six years of Labour government. Clearly it doesn't just take a dysfunctional Tory government to create a homeless problem.