Originally Posted by
Trickytreesreds
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrh, you're getting close to the crux of it now.
The mess left by Thatcher? The one who robbed me of my living? Interesting debate to be had here.
Thatcher came along why? Oh yes, the mess left by Labour if I remember correctly.
As said earlier, the country was sick to death of the way the left had destroyed this country from within.
Strikes/short working weeks/ power outages- remember them? Or wasn't you old enough?
The unions, given power seem to think they are a government in cognito. The miners brought down a Tory government. The unions destroyed the British car industry.
You talk about workers rights etc and that is exactly what unions are for. But who the hell gave them the rights to decide what happens in this country?
Just remind me again, who backs and endorses Corbyn?
The miners tried to do it again in 1984, but (sounds familiar) didn't want to do it democratically by ballot.
So it swings in roundabouts. The unions and Labour take it one way, then piss everyone off. The Tories come in, try to put it right and piss everyone off.
So people like you, with the chimpanzee in a rosette mentality, keep the cycle going.
It's never going to change then is it? Until folks start voting for what's on the table, then they'll keep making stupid promises in which to tempt me and you.
Your 13 years of Labour under Blair seemed like a new way forward. But ultimately, where did it lead us. A lying scumbag who took us to war over nothing. Left us (sorry, have to quote Jeremy Clarkson here)with a one eyed scottish idiot, who flogged all our gold for a handful of magic beans. An immigrtion policy that saw us jump from 50 000 migrants a year to 350 000 migrants a year. All on the pretext of getting more Labour voters.
As an off set. Food for thought. I'm not going to bang on about Labour shutting more pits than the Tories ever did. But both parties and others, are ramming the zero emissions down our throats every week now.
Exactly when and how would Labour/Lib dems/Greens have shut those mines in order to achieve this?
Shut them they would. No choice in the matter. The last coal powered power station is due to go out of commission in 2025.
So from screaming about the pits, Labour hasn't mentioned them for years.
I actually agree with you about tax pillages on the poor. This is the **** that an election should really be all about. But it isn't because of the Lib Dems unilateral stance on democracy and Labours stance on Hokey Cokey politics, whilst trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes.
That is what has lost Labour this election, with a woeful leader and his side kicks.