That's been the whole point of my contributions to this thread. My view is that when we explain that there has been no "trouble" in the SE since the seating arrangements were changed, we ask for the all ticket entry system could be changed to allow, on an experimental basis, for the provision of a PATG turnstile for the SE. Calling the chairman of the licensing committee names and trying to create a grievance culture is absolutely pointless, IMO. We need to emphasise the point that the PATG attendances for the SE have dropped, particularly for the OF and Aberdeen games, and it is ***** that the club try to get a PATG turnstile for the SE. I'm hopeful that JN or at least some of those supporters who have access to the board will be able to at least try to encourage this change. The DSA will have people who speak to the board. An analysis of ticket sales, by the board, will be possible and I would hope that a convincing case for the restoration of PATG directly into the SE will be an obvious thing to do.