Anyone who can get us from Brexit to shaggin' Angelina Jolie gets my vote. ;D
Seriously...three top contributions...and 800 up.
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Anyone who can get us from Brexit to shaggin' Angelina Jolie gets my vote. ;D
Seriously...three top contributions...and 800 up.
350 and some scare stories about immigration. Bit simplistic and wrong IMO.
I agree with the simple in/out question.. I am glad that was the question but it left the govt with nowhere to go. Always leave yourself some wiggle room, if you can.
Yes if I need a visa for France, I would still like to proceed. The benefits, again IMO, will out weigh the negatives. I have no issue with entering another country and proving that I am fit to visit and or work there.
Reconfirmed the decision, Swaley has already deducted the majority of the British public are thick ****s.. This would cause a melt down.
Suck it up and get on with it now.
Rule Brittania.
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do you think i could get into agelina jolie without a visa . cant decide if i should get my coat or have a lay down .
Actually the legal status of the referendum is "advisory" which means that the elected parliament could choose to ignore it, but I do agree that moaning about whether it was a true majority or not is pointless. My only repost is when those who favour Brexit talk about the majority of people in this country voted leave, which is not true. Whats more in the course of my work I find a wide a quite surprising variation in the people who voted leave and many different reasons, many of which (but not all) can be proven to be misconceptions or often completely false. Now its hardly scientific but I suspect a good many people might change thier view IF a second vote was held.
All this talk of negotiating with Poland or France etc. is wide of the mark, as long as those countries are in the EU, then it will be with the EU that the UK will be negotiating with and unless there is a complete breakdown of the EU mechanism then we are going to have a tough time.
Economically we need access to the single market and the price for that is likely to be high - if we dont get that then it is very likely that the financial services industry will suffer (a big earner for the UK and a severe hit to our GDP if we lose it). Norway may be different in trading terms, but as things stand and unless somehow we pull off an unlikely coup, I don't see that the deal we need economically will satisfy the Brexit vote...interesting times ahead.
Angry that is so not true! there are people who state reasons why they voted leave which are clearly not true, there are those who state reasons which are at best a misunderstanding of the facts and at worst a belief in something that is not reality and there are those who have genuine reasons.
Anyway a majority of the Uk public did not vote Leave.. that is a fact! So why would i conclude they are as thick as ****!
Yeah well when we leave the EU and it does not change anything in the way that SOME who voted leave thought it would, or in fact it gets worse for them, might that not cause meltdown????
We are all ****ed anyway!
The deal Norway and SWitzerland have is access to the single market in return for accepting EU rules and regulations, paying into the EU fund and accepting free movement of labour.
The Uk will be negotiating with the EU, not each country individually, unless a country decides to leave like the UK, then they are legally bound to those joint negotiations and whilst it would be nice to think that a mutually beneficial agreement can be made, unfortunately this politics, with various different agendas and countries depending upon others support, political egos etc. that will influence things. The EU may well feel that collectively it is able not to grant concessions to the UK, it would weaken the EU after all if we could leave and still benefit from access to the single market, after all I suspect more German cars get sold in the rest of the EU and the USA, whilst Greece already gets more Russian tourists to replace the Brits.
The economic effects to the UK could well be severe if we dont get a decent deal.
But its not going to happen, the other countries won't negotiate with us individually, they can't legally as long as they remain part of the EU, if one country starts ignoring legally binding treaties and agreements as it chooses, then it will suffer sanctions from the EU which many wont risk because it is not in their interests to do so. Germany and France are hardly going to break ranks are they, seeing as they are the founding members, so we either deal with the EU or we don't.
There might be factions in most EU countries that support nationalist tendencies, however, before that changes anything, they have
get into power and then leave the EU. Thats not going to happen before the UK leaves and in any case those we will be negotiating with don't have that agenda, so again thats not going to happen.
Its hardly a fight, more an intricate game of chess, I really hope we have sophisticated and intelligent negotiators on this.
Whilst superficially appealing, the collapse of the EU and a seizing of power by those national self interests is not something most rational people would welcome, it would cause immeasurable economic and political instability and the lessons are there from history the last time that happened in europe.