Who thinks Pboro Mag should be banned.

[Stanleymag]

?????

[Stanleymag]

And then we can move on a bit?

[ghostrider]

I think every person should be entitled to post their thoughts.

[Stanleymag]

I think every person should be entitled to post their thoughts.

Fair enough, though not what I asked.

[ghostrider]

Fair enough, though not what I asked.

Then no I don't think pboromag should be banned. I don't see anything nasty to incur one.

[Zippity]

Before I was made a mod (and I didn't ask, just to be clear), I just used to ignore his wind-up posts-which were most of them-and only answer his footy points which, in fairness, were often decent.

But, having become one, you find yourself in a different position where you do things differently from the way you might as a non-mod.

The problem as I see it is that there is a difference between someone expressing their own personal view-no matter how much people dislike it-because it's a genuinely-held point of view which they have every right to express and someone knowing which buttons to press to annoy or provoke posters and then creating threads or posts to do just that.

Not everything P'boro posts falls into the second category, hence the 'encouragement' by both mods and non-mods-to just ignore him when he's winding folk up. But, increasingly, it looks like he's spoiling for a fight with the pro-Ashley, anti-Rafa stuff because he can't seem to post what he thinks without having a dig at people with the opposing view.

We're reaching something of a watershed on the forum, in my opinion. It's getting to the stage where people are either posting less, not posting at all or not enjoying coming on here precisely because of the arguments he causes. And as I've said, there's a massive difference between expressing your own views to make a point and doing so but in a way designed to provoke arguments or simply have a go at people.

In my mind, this is crossing the line. I'm genuinely not trying to be arsey when I say this but the mods have a responsibility to look after the forum, imo, and if the forum is under threat because of the actions of one particular poster then, to my mind, action needs to be taken to 'look after' the forum...otherwise what's the point.

Because of that I've locked a number of threads and also banned P'boro for a week. To be honest, I didn't like doing that particularly but, if it's for the good of the forum, and within the rules, then it has to be done. Obviously, whether a thread is designed to express a genuinely-held point of view or whether that point of view is being overstated to wind people up or the point of the thread is to antagonise people but just dressed up as a personal opinion...is open to interpretation.

We can't go on the way we are and, to me, P'boro-you're the one who has to change your approach or I can only see this ending one way-for the 'good' of the forum.

As a side note, Ghost gets a lot of stick but manages to put his point across-which is quite often the opposite of what the rest of the forum thinks-but without resorting to insults and jibes. This is not about everyone thinking the same but it's about how those different views are put across.

There...I've tried to be as honest as possible.

[TANYA_]

Before I was made a mod (and I didn't ask, just to be clear), I just used to ignore his wind-up posts-which were most of them-and only answer his footy points which, in fairness, were often decent.

But, having become one, you find yourself in a different position where you do things differently from the way you might as a non-mod.

The problem as I see it is that there is a difference between someone expressing their own personal view-no matter how much people dislike it-because it's a genuinely-held point of view which they have every right to express and someone knowing which buttons to press to annoy or provoke posters and then creating threads or posts to do just that.

Not everything P'boro posts falls into the second category, hence the 'encouragement' by both mods and non-mods-to just ignore him when he's winding folk up. But, increasingly, it looks like he's spoiling for a fight with the pro-Ashley, anti-Rafa stuff because he can't seem to post what he thinks without having a dig at people with the opposing view.

We're reaching something of a watershed on the forum, in my opinion. It's getting to the stage where people are either posting less, not posting at all or not enjoying coming on here precisely because of the arguments he causes. And as I've said, there's a massive difference between expressing your own views to make a point and doing so but in a way designed to provoke arguments or simply have a go at people.

In my mind, this is crossing the line. I'm genuinely not trying to be arsey when I say this but the mods have a responsibility to look after the forum, imo, and if the forum is under threat because of the actions of one particular poster then, to my mind, action needs to be taken to 'look after' the forum...otherwise what's the point.

Because of that I've locked a number of threads and also banned P'boro for a week. To be honest, I didn't like doing that particularly but, if it's for the good of the forum, and within the rules, then it has to be done. Obviously, whether a thread is designed to express a genuinely-held point of view or whether that point of view is being overstated to wind people up or the point of the thread is to antagonise people but just dressed up as a personal opinion...is open to interpretation.

We can't go on the way we are and, to me, P'boro-you're the one who has to change your approach or I can only see this ending one way-for the 'good' of the forum.

As a side note, Ghost gets a lot of stick but manages to put his point across-which is quite often the opposite of what the rest of the forum thinks-but without resorting to insults and jibes. This is not about everyone thinking the same but it's about how those different views are put across.

There...I've tried to be as honest as possible.

Zip, this lad has had it coming for a long long time, you can be as diplomatic about it as you want. He is disruptive, he has shared his homophobic veiws pubically, he has shared his racist veiws publically, he said someone on here was to "blame" for their relative marrying a muslim person, he calls our fans plastic/armchair fans, its a complete plss take that you give him the platform to continue. Holy **** lad the list is endless and yet he's ok to be on here. The ones who are doing the damage are the mods.
Why can everyone see it other than the mods. I am not the only one who has this veiw

This forum is the gutter of forums now because of what is let slide

[ex_pat_magpie]

Before I was made a mod (and I didn't ask, just to be clear), I just used to ignore his wind-up posts-which were most of them-and only answer his footy points which, in fairness, were often decent.

But, having become one, you find yourself in a different position where you do things differently from the way you might as a non-mod.

The problem as I see it is that there is a difference between someone expressing their own personal view-no matter how much people dislike it-because it's a genuinely-held point of view which they have every right to express and someone knowing which buttons to press to annoy or provoke posters and then creating threads or posts to do just that.

Not everything P'boro posts falls into the second category, hence the 'encouragement' by both mods and non-mods-to just ignore him when he's winding folk up. But, increasingly, it looks like he's spoiling for a fight with the pro-Ashley, anti-Rafa stuff because he can't seem to post what he thinks without having a dig at people with the opposing view.

We're reaching something of a watershed on the forum, in my opinion. It's getting to the stage where people are either posting less, not posting at all or not enjoying coming on here precisely because of the arguments he causes. And as I've said, there's a massive difference between expressing your own views to make a point and doing so but in a way designed to provoke arguments or simply have a go at people.

In my mind, this is crossing the line. I'm genuinely not trying to be arsey when I say this but the mods have a responsibility to look after the forum, imo, and if the forum is under threat because of the actions of one particular poster then, to my mind, action needs to be taken to 'look after' the forum...otherwise what's the point.

Because of that I've locked a number of threads and also banned P'boro for a week. To be honest, I didn't like doing that particularly but, if it's for the good of the forum, and within the rules, then it has to be done. Obviously, whether a thread is designed to express a genuinely-held point of view or whether that point of view is being overstated to wind people up or the point of the thread is to antagonise people but just dressed up as a personal opinion...is open to interpretation.

We can't go on the way we are and, to me, P'boro-you're the one who has to change your approach or I can only see this ending one way-for the 'good' of the forum.

As a side note, Ghost gets a lot of stick but manages to put his point across-which is quite often the opposite of what the rest of the forum thinks-but without resorting to insults and jibes. This is not about everyone thinking the same but it's about how those different views are put across.

There...I've tried to be as honest as possible.

That's all really well put Zippity and very fair but the problem with him is that if he would stick to his approximately one in ten reasonable posts it would be acceptable but as it is now the other nine out of ten are either sheer windups or pointedly insulting towards some one or other or some section of people or other and often grossly beligerant and foul mouthed.

I don't know whether it's a mental problem with him or if it's just uncontrollable but it does need serious adjustment.

Another point I wonder about is that he used to post on here some years ago under the name I think of Toonfull. What happened in the interim period until he re-emerged as the more than prolific Pboromag.

When he began reposting a few years back and was at that time approachable I asked him because of his name was he from Peterborough to which he affirmed. Now he states he's not lived there for about 20 years so strange choice of user name.

[toonfalifekevbrown]

That's all really well put Zippity and very fair but the problem with him is that if he would stick to his approximately one in ten reasonable posts it would be acceptable but as it is now the other nine out of ten are either sheer windups or pointedly insulting towards some one or other or some section of people or other and often grossly beligerant and foul mouthed.

I don't know whether it's a mental problem with him or if it's just uncontrollable but it does need serious adjustment.

Another point I wonder about is that he used to post on here some years ago under the name I think of Toonfull. What happened in the interim period until he re-emerged as the more than prolific Pboromag.

When he began reposting a few years back and was at that time approachable I asked him because of his name was he from Peterborough to which he affirmed. Now he states he's not lived there for about 20 years so strange choice of user name.

Ask whitepointer

[ex_pat_magpie]

Ask whitepointer

What did Whitepointer know that we don't Kev. I didn't know White pointer as I've only been on here coming up eight years and reading the forum a few months before that so I don't know what went on in the early days.