Breaking News - New Stadium and Training Facilities

[rico94]

Do we honestly think a new stadium and facilities is going to take us back to the days of D'Jaffo and Mcfarlenes? that had very little to do with training facilities or lack of, and everything to do with bad decisions on signings. Even with a manageable debt, its up to the manager to make good signings and training facilities will help both attract and develop footballers. Seems to me there is a lot of cynicism even if it disguised as jest. As i have said above, the club has very little other options.

You really think all those years we were signing guys like D'Jaffo and McFarlane it was down to just bad decisions on signings?

I think you will find it was just as much down to us being in debt as it was to bad decisions, they were the best we could afford at the time.

Even when we did have a decent player back then we could never get them to stay,they just let their contracts run out where as most of our players today have signed numerous contract extensions.If that debt was still hanging over us I doubt that would have been the case.

[Aldo1983]

Do we honestly think a new stadium and facilities is going to take us back to the days of D'Jaffo and Mcfarlenes? that had very little to do with training facilities or lack of, and everything to do with bad decisions on signings. Even with a manageable debt, its up to the manager to make good signings and training facilities will help both attract and develop footballers. Seems to me there is a lot of cynicism even if it disguised as jest. As i have said above, the club has very little other options.

They have had years and years to get training facilities...if they are so important to Milne and co.

I'm not totally against having a new stadium, I just feel it's been amateur hour and we are steam rolling ahead out of desperation with what looks like a pretty average ground.

As for the debt, it might be manageable with the figures now. D'Jaffo was obviously a bad signing but even with our best manager in years, he's still signed Zola but with £300k he can sign a proven player like May. There's more money for McInnes to spend on wages and fees and spending it clearly works better.

[Stupie82]

They have had years and years to get training facilities...if they are so important to Milne and co.

I'm not totally against having a new stadium, I just feel it's been amateur hour and we are steam rolling ahead out of desperation with what looks like a pretty average ground.

As for the debt, it might be manageable with the figures now. D'Jaffo was obviously a bad signing but even with our best manager in years, he's still signed Zola but with £300k he can sign a proven player like May. There's more money for McInnes to spend on wages and fees and spending it clearly works better.

I take the point that we have had a very long time to get training facilities sorted out, this I cant disagree with. However to say this process has been amateur is very harsh. The club has spent countless months pushing this project, with constant dialogue between the city and shire council planning departments. I can say first hand that the club are very ambitious about this project, see it as a way forward and a determined to push it through. With the failure of Loirston, its no wonder this has been shoved down our throats, because if this fails then the options left are extremely limited. I think the club deserves credit where its due to be honest

The ability to replace Derek when he goes and sign decent players will continue to be more difficult without facilities to attract said managers and players. The modern day footballer doesn’t want to train at Seaton park and a decent manager wants his position to be as easy as possible.

There are flaws in Aurora, but the pro’s for me far outweigh them and as I said above, I think the club deserves credit because they are throwing a lot behind this.

[57vintage]

The modern day footballer doesn’t want to train at Seaton park and a decent manager wants his position to be as easy as possible.
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That's fair enough. Build Phase 1 so that the players can train on consistent surfaces. They can all get there by car and luxuriate in the 1400 parking spaces without adding significantly to traffic. Let the community use the facilities when we dinna need them.

A far easier and cheaper 'build' than something that looks like a Tesco. A tiny mortgage added to the cash already committed.

And there's a fine grassy bit at the foot of Merkland Road East that we can play fitba on. A couple of coats of paint, some new seats, a canopy ower Y, re-develop the Mainer losing fewer seats for a season than we did when we had the Beach End demolished in 93-94, negotiate with the cooncil to bridge Pittodrie Street (possibly with a slight re-alignment) to keep the prawn sandwich lot happy, maintain the capacity and widen the pitch if that's what UEFA needs. Then replace the rest of the stands as required and g=funds allow.

My only concern is that the W.A.N.K.S would see it as a victory, given that the only thing going for the major development, as far as I'm concerned, is that it would annoy a squealing crowd of lying bourgeois self-satisfied NIMBY wife-swapping bifters.

[donsdaft]

Common sense 57 min.

I like the main stand the way it is, mind you I'm nae behind a post.






Of course the corporate headquarters (washing machines etc.) could be at Westhill too

GET IT BUILT

[Aldo1983]

The ability to replace Derek when he goes and sign decent players will continue to be more difficult without facilities to attract said managers and players. The modern day footballer doesn’t want to train at Seaton park and a decent manager wants his position to be as easy as possible.

I get your point but McInnes came here in the first place knowing there were no state of the art facilities and he's knocked back two clubs meantime. The likes of Stevie May was also aware of the situation and he still signed. May didn't come thinking he can't wait to see the new facilities, likewise Logan and Lewis didn't sign extensions on the back of it.

There are flaws in Aurora, but the pro’s for me far outweigh them and as I said above, I think the club deserves credit because they are throwing a lot behind this.

This is where the desperation kicks in. They have no choice but to throw everything at it because Pittodrie is ****ed (apparently). They let things get that way. They let us go years without decent facilities.

Ultimately the stadium will go ahead but people need to start being critical of what's getting built and how we intend to pay for it. Right now we just have a camp of those that want it and will accept anything. It's part anti nimby which I can understand though.

[RED_JOHN]

What does Milne do if the stadium gets knocked back? After saying land in Aberdeen is not available/suitable does he go ahead and get plans done to redevelop Pittodrie and build training facilities elsewhere?
I wouldn’t mind a new stadium as Pittodrie has been left to rot for years with only the bare minimum done to get the safety certificate needed. Don’t really like the idea of it outside the city though.

[Pacman1903]

What does Milne do if the stadium gets knocked back? .

Hopefully gets well and truly to f@ck out of our club

[RED_JOHN]

Hopefully gets well and truly to f@ck out of our club

He may have to resign as he is the one who constantly states that there is no other option but Kingsford.
I do think that he is going to be fortunate though and it will get passed.

[Jupiter]

Aberdeenshire cooncil are still objecting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...tland-42634182