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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagnificent View Post
    Depends what role he's in though. Given the right job, he's a huge asset to any club. His strengths are his contacts, being an adviser to the manager and helping to develop youth products. That's exactly how Nathan Jones used him, how Leeds and Forest used him and he was a success in those jobs. At times he's tried to do other stuff such as manage and coach and it hasn't worked as well, but play to his strengths and he'd be good for anyone.
    You're wasting your time on this one even though I completely agree with you.

    These are the same fans that think Steve Chettle is awful at his job but praise our U23 team (that they forget he manages) and say most of the youngsters should be playing in the first team.

    It's also the same fans thinking we don't need to waste money on a Director of Football/Technical Director that use Ray Trew not appointing one when Craig Short was here as the reason why the beloved Craig Short was shown to be woefully out of his depth and sacked.

    They also like to blame Greg Abbott being Shaun Derry's assistant for how god awful he was here, turns out if you're liked then someone else is at fault, if you're not liked it's your fault, weird that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    You're wasting your time on this one even though I completely agree with you.

    These are the same fans that think Steve Chettle is awful at his job but praise our U23 team (that they forget he manages) and say most of the youngsters should be playing in the first team.

    It's also the same fans thinking we don't need to waste money on a Director of Football/Technical Director that use Ray Trew not appointing one when Craig Short was here as the reason why the beloved Craig Short was shown to be woefully out of his depth and sacked.

    They also like to blame Greg Abbott being Shaun Derry's assistant for how god awful he was here, turns out if you're liked then someone else is at fault, if you're not liked it's your fault, weird that.
    We all have those fans to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    You're wasting your time on this one even though I completely agree with you.

    These are the same fans that think Steve Chettle is awful at his job but praise our U23 team (that they forget he manages) and say most of the youngsters should be playing in the first team.

    It's also the same fans thinking we don't need to waste money on a Director of Football/Technical Director that use Ray Trew not appointing one when Craig Short was here as the reason why the beloved Craig Short was shown to be woefully out of his depth and sacked.

    They also like to blame Greg Abbott being Shaun Derry's assistant for how god awful he was here, turns out if you're liked then someone else is at fault, if you're not liked it's your fault, weird that.
    They're also the ones who STILL think Keith Curle was rubbish, despite us missing out on L1 playoffs on goal difference and going on a club-record unbeaten away run.

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    Him going to Stoke would be a good way out for everybody. I hope it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_anticlough View Post
    Him going to Stoke would be a good way out for everybody. I hope it happens
    I have to agree. I know he's vastly experienced and well respected etc., etc., but with our bloated wage bill and need for instant results, it makes sense. He might do a job long-term, but he'll have no impact on us picking up enough points to stay up this season. Ardley didn't have an equivalent at AFC Wimbledon, and he managed to get sort them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    I have to agree. I know he's vastly experienced and well respected etc., etc., but with our bloated wage bill and need for instant results, it makes sense. He might do a job long-term, but he'll have no impact on us picking up enough points to stay up this season. Ardley didn't have an equivalent at AFC Wimbledon, and he managed to get sort them out.
    My thoughts as well and it sums up his effectiveness for Notts every time he's been here. Bags of experience, bags of knowledge and very little impact and yet another wage to find. Given our League position and the fact we'd just missed out on the P/O's, Curley Wurley should have never got the sack at that time, even though his Post Match interviews gave me a migraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    Ardley didn't have an equivalent at AFC Wimbledon, and he managed to get sort them out.
    He had less experienced people in similar roles.

    Academy Manager: Jeremy Sauer
    Head of Football: Mark Robinson
    Head of Coaching: Michael Hamilton
    Senior Professional Development Phase Coach: Alan Reeves
    Second Professional Development Phase Coach: James Oliver-Pearce
    Lead Youth Phase Coach: Rob Tuvey
    Lead Foundation Phase Coach: Joe Roberts
    Head of Talent ID: Ben Fosuhene

    As for our bloated wage bill, whilst it all comes from the same pot, the financial fair play rules only matter when it comes to players wages and I'd say Paul Hart is a bit past his prime. Paul Hart's wage won't have any effect of our player wage bill, which is what matters, otherwise we might as well be talking about random members of the admin staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slack_pie View Post
    They're also the ones who STILL think Keith Curle was rubbish, despite us missing out on L1 playoffs on goal difference and going on a club-record unbeaten away run.
    Keith Curle's Northampton were 21st when he took over. In 16 games they've got 23 points and are now 16th.

    In the same time we've played 17 games, got 15 points and have gone from 22nd to 24th.

    No, I didn't want him back and think Ardley is our best hope, but Curle is certainly not now, and wasn't then, rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    Keith Curle's Northampton were 21st when he took over. In 16 games they've got 23 points and are now 16th.

    In the same time we've played 17 games, got 15 points and have gone from 22nd to 24th.

    No, I didn't want him back and think Ardley is our best hope, but Curle is certainly not now, and wasn't then, rubbish.
    Used to be at Mansfield though so people disliked him from the start, he was fighting a losing battle (quite well) from day one, it's probably why I see the odd person say Hemmings is cr*p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeman25 View Post
    Used to be at Mansfield though so people disliked him from the start, he was fighting a losing battle (quite well) from day one, it's probably why I see the odd person say Hemmings is cr*p
    He was hard done by at Mansfield. Haslam concocted some story about him bullying a youth team player and sacked him. Curle later won a wrongful-dismissal case and got compensation. There are those among our support who also remember him as rubbish, even though he got us to a play-off final on a shoestring and with a monster chairman like Haslam.

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