O/T Democracy

[Exiletyke]

All I can say is that you two read it one way and I read it another. Text is just text and without knowing the context behind it it is left to your own conclusion. At the end of the day I can only say that your conclusions are wrong.

OK if it makes you feel better have it your way

[BigLadonOS]

OK if it makes you feel better have it your way

Well if that is the way you think then I cannot change your opinion which you are welcome to have but it does not change the fact that it was not meant the way you have read it.

[Exiletyke]

If you see that as I am against immigration then you have read it wrong. I meant that I voted leave because of the state of housing, education and the NHS which is not helped by immigration numbers. I have not actually said that I am against immigration I just stated that the true effect of immigration is not about how many jobs they take from UK natives (which was what I was replying too) although I will admit it that it is one (just one) of my concerns.

You said you voted leave because of the true effect of immigration is housing, healthcare, crime and education .You now admit that jobs taken from UK natives is one [another] of your concerns
How else do you expect people to interpret that when you readily infer that all these matters are not helped by our immigration levels
I have to say that I agree with your assertions mate as our schools, hospitals, crime levels [with reduced Police numbers] housing infrastructure [roads etc] & yes jobs are all under strain from a grossly inflated population
If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck & looks like a duck, it's a duck
If you believe all of the above then stick to your guns & don't water down your views
That's how I see it

[BigLadonOS]

Once again I will say that I am not against immigration as immigration done the correct way can and usually is a good thing for the UK but what I am against is the EU forcing us to take more immigrants than our infrastructure can handle and that is why I voted to leave, not because I hate immigrants but because I hate the EU and the way it can force the UK into a position that is not good for the UK.

[animallittle3]

How to commit electoral suicide in one easy conference !!!!


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ign-for-remain

[John2]

Perhaps they failed to note the poor conditions in those countries that flowed from 40 years of Socialist economics?

A little misleading and unfair to refer to it as socialist economics rather than communist economics as it primarily was. Socialism has been very successful in places like Scandinavia, communism has been a universal failure.

[BigLadonOS]

A little misleading and unfair to refer to it as socialist economics rather than communist economics as it primarily was. Socialism has been very successful in places like Scandinavia, communism has been a universal failure.

If people do not know the difference between Socialism and Communism then I am afraid you are wasting your time trying to explain it John.

[great_fire]

If people do not know the difference between Socialism and Communism then I am afraid you are wasting your time trying to explain it John.

Same thing, just a re-brand after Communism got a bad name.

Been re-branded again to "progressiveness."

[BigLadonOS]

Same thing, just a re-brand after Communism got a bad name.

Been re-branded again to "progressiveness."

Realy?

Socialism as far as I know does not support dictatorship like Communism does.

[Silly-miller]

Realy?

Socialism as far as I know does not support dictatorship like Communism does.

Communism doesn’t support Dictatorship it only seems that way due to the history of the soviet empire.

In theory communism and democracy are more like each other. Renationalising companies and making them part of the country is a forum of communism yet many believe that some companies like railway companies and water companies should be nationalised, personally I think that should be a last resort for failing companies.

Remember Corbyns slogan for the many and not the few that slogan could be seen as communist since the whole idea of communism is to do away with the two class system (working class and the privileged) and have everyone on equal footing.

Look at China it’s a communist country but is democratic (well ish)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

I used to read a book set made by a Russian author great read but had a lot of communism talk and I had to do research on the whole thing