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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    IMO, it's all going to be shut for a while yet. Dutch government announced yesterday 5 things that have to happen before they can even think of loosening the rules a little.

    1.The R factor (number of people infected by someone with CV-19) has to be below 1 for "quite a while"
    2. The health system has enough capacity to go back to "work as normal" alongside CV-19 cases
    3. Sufficient test capacity
    4. Enough capacity to track/trace sources of contamination and contacting contacts
    5. Means of measuring the transition back to normality in order to be able to react quickly to changing stats.

    That suggests the NL won't be back to normal any day soon and I dout the UK will be either.

    Another thing Premier Rutte said was very thought provoking. Don't think that a return to "normal" will see things as they were. Translated to UK measures, he said the 2m (social distancing - it's 1.5m here...) society is here to stay.

    What he didn't say was what that would mean for places of work from factories to offices to bars, clubs, festivals, sports events. Basically, 2m everywhere. That will drastically reduce the number of people at a concert, sports event, in a bar, in a restaurant etc.......... Let that sink in.

    One bar in the Hague is ahead of the game. The day after the shutdown, however long ago that was, he got the builders in and is refurbing the bar to keep people socially distanced, permanently. Once things open up the rest will have to follow, if you read what Rutte said......

    Might this be the future in the UK as well? Don't be surprised if it is.

    Pride Park's capacity may well halve........
    Well thanks, MA...that’s cheered me up no end.

    Seriously though...no reason to suspect you or Premier Rutte are exaggerating and to add two more to your list...what will long term adherence to the 1.5 - 2 metre rules mean to schools and to air travel?

    Basically classrooms would need to be at least twice as big...or there will need to be twice as many, and air travel is likely to become prohibitively expensive because planes will only be able to carry about a third of current capacity.

    Better find that vaccine...or master time travel!
    Last edited by ramAnag; 08-04-2020 at 06:42 PM.

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