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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    For a start they're the only party that wants to cut immigration, which depresses wages, and makes it harder to see a GP or get your child into the school you want to get them in.
    So what part of immigration do they want to cut? NHS? Care workers? Cleaners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    So what part of immigration do they want to cut? NHS? Care workers? Cleaners?
    There's nearly 3 million people on the sick, I'm sure a fair number of them could actually work.

    Businesses need to invest in training and technology and get off the crutch of cheap foreign labour. That's why we have such poor productivity in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    There's nearly 3 million people on the sick, I'm sure a fair number of them could actually work.

    Businesses need to invest in training and technology and get off the crutch of cheap foreign labour. That's why we have such poor productivity in this country.
    Ok, so let's assume that the recent DWP statement that 1 million of these 3 millioin are able to do work of some kind and help fill the current 1.25 million uk vacancies. What is the Reform plan to:

    1. Fill the number of concentrated jobs in the NHS, social work, education where specific skills are needed but workers in short supply
    2. Fill the numbers of concentrated vacancies in specific parts of the country where even demand for low skilled seasonal work is far in excess of the numbers of sick people in a 2 hour commuting area
    3. Beyond that, what is the overall Reform plan, or yours for that matter, to fill the increasing number of vacancies left by retiring people, which will be increasingly unfilled even if you manage to get the 1 million sick into work, but then find the vacancies still increasing over the next 10-20 years? What's the long term plan to solve the work replacement problem?

    These are problems facing all parties, and none are coming up with honest answers, largely as they are canvassing to a public that are not really aware of the extent of this problem and are trying to win support by very simplistic and populist ideas, whereas the 'standing up for the working man', and their pensions in retirement need real world solutions. I think Reform instinctively may tend to go towards scrapping state pensions altogether, but I'd love to see them set that out to their mainly aging target demographic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragingpup View Post
    Ok, so let's assume that the recent DWP statement that 1 million of these 3 millioin are able to do work of some kind and help fill the current 1.25 million uk vacancies. What is the Reform plan to:

    1. Fill the number of concentrated jobs in the NHS, social work, education where specific skills are needed but workers in short supply
    2. Fill the numbers of concentrated vacancies in specific parts of the country where even demand for low skilled seasonal work is far in excess of the numbers of sick people in a 2 hour commuting area
    3. Beyond that, what is the overall Reform plan, or yours for that matter, to fill the increasing number of vacancies left by retiring people, which will be increasingly unfilled even if you manage to get the 1 million sick into work, but then find the vacancies still increasing over the next 10-20 years? What's the long term plan to solve the work replacement problem?

    These are problems facing all parties, and none are coming up with honest answers, largely as they are canvassing to a public that are not really aware of the extent of this problem and are trying to win support by very simplistic and populist ideas, whereas the 'standing up for the working man', and their pensions in retirement need real world solutions. I think Reform instinctively may tend to go towards scrapping state pensions altogether, but I'd love to see them set that out to their mainly aging target demographic!
    Reform are filling a void:

    In attempt to unwind history lies behind the belief that swathes of “moderate” voters yearn for a party that recycles the centrist positions of two decades ago. In fact many voters favour policy mixes no “sensible” politician would entertain – renationalisation of utilities and public services alongside strong immigration controls aiming to protect workers’ wage levels and stringent measures against crime, for example. The lack of a party that blends left and right in this way is the real black hole at the centre of British politics.
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ts-own-history

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