O/T Covid Vaccine mRNA

[frogmiller]

In a fair world, yep, you'd expect an OFCOM investigation.

Problem is OFCOM is being controlled, so either;
a) it won't happen, or,
b) it will happen and we'll see a whitewash (in about 4 years).

PR firm MHP Group program is run by one of Matt Hancock’s former pandemic PR men & has @itvnews & @AstraZeneca as clients

AND @itvnews has had celebrity docs pushing AstraZeneca shots on ITV for years-with ZERO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST DECLARED!

[Eternal Optimist]

With Midazolam Matt involved I'd say this should be dealt with by the Courts rather than OFCOM.

Somewhere neutral, like, er... Nuremberg.

[frogmiller]

With Midazolam Matt involved I'd say this should be dealt with by the Courts rather than OFCOM.

Somewhere neutral, like, er... Nuremberg.

I've not heard of this going on but I saw this reply to a post https://twitter.com/BlackTomThePyr8/...83303842734288

How many cease-and-desist-from-harm orders from The Hague are there referencing Nuremberg?

[KerrAvon]

The ICC and domestic courts around the world have been bombarded with shyte notices and applications by antivaxxers for the last four years.

I don't think you will find that any orders have been issued by the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice in response.

[frogmiller]

The ICC and domestic courts around the world have been bombarded with shyte notices and applications by antivaxxers for the last four years.

I don't think you will find that any orders have been issued by the International Criminal Court or the International Court of Justice in response.

Thanks. I don’t know how this all works

[Eternal Optimist]

The ICC and domestic courts around the world have been bombarded with shyte notices and applications by antivaxxers...

Do any of these shyte notices include people who've lost loved ones to the vax, or are they imagining it?

[KerrAvon]

I've seen efforts by narcissistic wannabe lawyers and general loons.

I've never seen one by the family of those unlucky enough to be harmed by any of the vaccines. They tend to just get exploited by narcissistic wannabe lawyers and general loons.

[frogmiller]

I've seen efforts by narcissistic wannabe lawyers and general loons.

I've never seen one by the family of those unlucky enough to be harmed by any of the vaccines. They tend to just get exploited by narcissistic wannabe lawyers and general loons.

What about the AZ court case?

Dozens of patients and families are launching legal action against AstraZeneca over a rare side effect of its covid-19 vaccine.

Lawyers have sent the company pre-action protocol letters, the first step in a legal claim on behalf of around 75 claimants. Some have lost relatives and some have survived with catastrophic injuries following blood clots.

Many millions have had the vaccine without suffering complications but in 2021 the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency confirmed a possible link between the vaccine, known as Vaxzevria, and a rare condition involving blood clots along with abnormally low platelet levels. Those taking legal action have been diagnosed with vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia.

The claimants are pursuing a two pronged strategy: taking legal action under the Consumer Protection Act 1987 as well as claiming payment under the government run Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme. The scheme has paid out in several cases, but is limited to £120 000 per claim and applicants must prove severe disablement.1 Payment under the scheme does not preclude a claim for personal injury through the courts. Those taking action under the Consumer Protection Act must show that the vaccine was not as safe as the public were entitled to expect.

Peter Todd, a consultant solicitor with Scott-Moncrieff & Associates, one of two lawyers handling claims, told The BMJ that the complications included stroke, heart failure, and leg amputations. He said the technology involved in the AstraZeneca vaccine was “risky.”

There will become Lawyers that will specialise in this compensation scheme just like the ones for aspestosis, miners breathing dificulties, Vibration white finger, The Post office claims, the blood transfusion scandal, PPI and the list goes on.

The fact that the vaccines where ok for kids meant that the pharma were free from prosecution and the tab for wrong doing is passed on to the tax payers through the governments existing scheme.

[KerrAvon]

I very much doubt that the pleadings in the AZ litigation bang on about Nuremberg and other such rubbish.

For my part, I think the government should reform the vaccine injury compensation scheme to make such litigation as that against AZ unnecessary. The test that applies – 60% disability – is too high and the maximum pay out - £120k – is too low to properly address the issue.

As the article points out, it will be the government who will pay any compensation that the claimants are awarded as AZ has an indemnity agreement with the government that it obtained as a condition of making the vaccine available in the UK.

And before anyone gets upset about the indemnity arrangement that AZ has, they need to think about vaccine roll outs. Firstly, they are regarded as being in the interest of the general public and secondly, there is an inherent risk involved in them. That risk arises because clinical trials such as those that the AZ vaccine went through are by necessity limited in size (with tens of thousands of participants as opposed to the millions that the vaccine will be administered to), which means that a very rare complication such as the thrombocytopenia that is linked to the AZ vaccine may not be picked up until post release surveillance does so (as it was in April 2021 for the AZ jab).

There is also a fairly strong moral argument for AZ being indemnified given that their vaccine was made available on a not-for-profit basis during the pandemic. AZ are not even a company that is heavily involved in vaccine production. They were simply a partner of convenience for Oxford University after the other big UK pharmaceutical player -GSK – got into bed with the French company Sanofi to try to produce a vaccine.

It is tragic that anyone was injured by any of the covid vaccines, but to put matters into perspective, the AZ vaccine is estimated to have saved 6.5 million lives worldwide, in part because it was made available in countries who would not have been able to afford the mRNA vaccines and which did not have the infrastructure to store and distribute them. That will obviously be of no comfort whatsoever to the injured and their families, but that’s the long and short of it.

Of course, the bigger question is if the vaccines were not the answer to the pandemic then what was? I appreciate that some people deny the existence of the SARS-Cov2 virus or get wrapped up in theories about its origin, but I think most people know that it swept around the world killing very large numbers of people and causing long term injury to many more.

[frogmiller]

I very much doubt that the pleadings in the AZ litigation bang on about Nuremberg and other such rubbish.

For my part, I think the government should reform the vaccine injury compensation scheme to make such litigation as that against AZ unnecessary. The test that applies – 60% disability – is too high and the maximum pay out - £120k – is too low to properly address the issue.

As the article points out, it will be the government who will pay any compensation that the claimants are awarded as AZ has an indemnity agreement with the government that it obtained as a condition of making the vaccine available in the UK.

And before anyone gets upset about the indemnity arrangement that AZ has, they need to think about vaccine roll outs. Firstly, they are regarded as being in the interest of the general public and secondly, there is an inherent risk involved in them. That risk arises because clinical trials such as those that the AZ vaccine went through are by necessity limited in size (with tens of thousands of participants as opposed to the millions that the vaccine will be administered to), which means that a very rare complication such as the thrombocytopenia that is linked to the AZ vaccine may not be picked up until post release surveillance does so (as it was in April 2021 for the AZ jab).

There is also a fairly strong moral argument for AZ being indemnified given that their vaccine was made available on a not-for-profit basis during the pandemic. AZ are not even a company that is heavily involved in vaccine production. They were simply a partner of convenience for Oxford University after the other big UK pharmaceutical player -GSK – got into bed with the French company Sanofi to try to produce a vaccine.

It is tragic that anyone was injured by any of the covid vaccines, but to put matters into perspective, the AZ vaccine is estimated to have saved 6.5 million lives worldwide, in part because it was made available in countries who would not have been able to afford the mRNA vaccines and which did not have the infrastructure to store and distribute them. That will obviously be of no comfort whatsoever to the injured and their families, but that’s the long and short of it.

Of course, the bigger question is if the vaccines were not the answer to the pandemic then what was? I appreciate that some people deny the existence of the SARS-Cov2 virus or get wrapped up in theories about its origin, but I think most people know that it swept around the world killing very large numbers of people and causing long term injury to many more.

It's origin has not been officially stated nor has any meaningful investigations taken place. If something so dangerous started then why wasn't it tracked down to the source. The Wet market is one answer but the paper trails from Fauci to the Whuhan biolads is more credible. So much so that Donalt Trump has said so today in a speach regarding his dislike to the WHO treaty and Accords.

Covid caused so much upset, pain and loss so you'd think they'd track down the origin like they do any form od desease outbreak or poisoning outbreak.

If then the vaccine which seems to be owned by the US government and Moderna and Pfizer pay royalties for is injuring so many and killing some then why is it so important to give it to kids who are less likely to be injured by Covid itself and more likely to be injured by the Vaccine.

Getting wrapped up about the oridin as you say owill give so many answers but it seems inconvenient to get those answers.

Because of these points that you are not qualified to answer it leaves open the high possiblity of bad play.