D Day for Brexit

[sinkov]

I would disagree that Brexit weakens Britain OC. As a member of the EU, Britain doesn't exist as a sovereign, independent nation, and is unable to negotiate a trade deal with the USA or any other country, how does leaving make us weaker ? Trump dislikes the EU intensely, he sees it for the sclerotic, expensive, corrupt scam that it is, and quite rightly thinks we'll be better off out of it.

A more interesting, and revealing, line of inquiry would be to ask why Obama, a President who quite clearly had no interest, affection or respect for our country, wanted us to stay in.

[oldcolner]

Sinkov
In the long term I agree, in the short term we will be desperate to sign trade deals and the US would be a top priority. Obama did what Dave asked him to do - go to the back of the line ( no it’s a queue here). Doubt he really cared.

I read this Brexit paper if implemented would allow the EU to stop Jeremys promised largesse in its tracks and the EU won’t accept its solution to the Irish border.

[sinkov]

Sinkov
In the long term I agree, in the short term we will be desperate to sign trade deals and the US would be a top priority. Obama did what Dave asked him to do - go to the back of the line ( no it’s a queue here). Doubt he really cared.

I read this Brexit paper if implemented would allow the EU to stop Jeremys promised largesse in its tracks and the EU won’t accept its solution to the Irish border.

Spot on there OC, Jezza has always been against the EU because while we are members he would never be allowed to implement his loony, hard-left, socialist economic policies. He's had to abandon his principles, don't they all, and pretend to be a Remoaner, but he'll never vote May's betrayal through Parliament, even if the EU accepted it, which they won't anyway, because it would leave any government lead by him and Macdo dead in the water, without an implementable economic policy to their name.

[oldcolner]

OMG
Ed Milliband now on Newsnight talking about Brexit, Trump and criticising Theresa - what made him crawl out his hole?
Is Jeremy going through the out door? Go Jeremy Corbyn.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Players in the drama from yesterday mentioned in the media: the Queen, Trump's fake news, Melanie bowling, Tommy Robinson, Gob****e Farage, Miliband crawled out from under his stone, hundreds of thousands of UK protesters (are they all wrong?), sycophantic May and her dreadful bloody husband (WTF?). Jesus Christ, we really are up ****'s Creek, we've lost the outboard, the alligators have nicked the paddle and the hull is holed. Doomed I tell thee!

[sinkov]

Players in the drama from yesterday mentioned in the media: the Queen, Trump's fake news, Melanie bowling, Tommy Robinson, Gob****e Farage, Miliband crawled out from under his stone, hundreds of thousands of UK protesters (are they all wrong?), sycophantic May and her dreadful bloody husband (WTF?). Jesus Christ, we really are up ****'s Creek, we've lost the outboard, the alligators have nicked the paddle and the hull is holed. Doomed I tell thee!

Good stuff BT, you're up there with the Donald on incoherent rants.

[Supersub6]

Players in the drama from yesterday mentioned in the media: the Queen, Trump's fake news, Melanie bowling, Tommy Robinson, Gob****e Farage, Miliband crawled out from under his stone, hundreds of thousands of UK protesters (are they all wrong?), sycophantic May and her dreadful bloody husband (WTF?). Jesus Christ, we really are up ****'s Creek, we've lost the outboard, the alligators have nicked the paddle and the hull is holed. Doomed I tell thee!

How are we poor apolitical beings supposed to pull things round when staunch Labour supporters have such a negative attitude to everything?
Answers on a postage stamp please, second class will be quite acceptable.

[sinkov]

But these are good times, the Brexiteers have had enough and are turning on May and her traitorous soft Brexit plans, she is surely on borrowed time now. The utterly useless Tory Party is tearing itself apart, hopefully it's terminal, and if Brexit goes tits up Sir Nigel of Farage has promised to resurrect UKIP, so 17 million betrayed Brexiteers will have a party to vote for.

UKIP support up from 3% to 8% in a week, support more than doubled, and this is while UKIP is little more than a shell of a party. Does it have a leader, I don't know, if it does who is he, does anyone know ? I doubt it, but if Sir Nigel gets involved again, you can guarantee that 8% will be 16% overnight, and with disillusioned Tories defecting in droves, it's game on.

I shall refer to Mrs May as Saint Theresa from now on, she can perform miracles, she's just brought a political corpse back to life.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We had our collective noses rubbed in it last week. Alarming for me that the British Labour Party could not make any political capital from it.

Nature abhors a vacuum, please God don't let Farage and the far right fill it?


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[sinkov]

I think the UKIP manifesto is still online BT, it certainly used to be anyway. I once had a look through it just out of curiosity, I could find nothing in it that would remotely link them to what I would call 'far right'. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction, or is this just more of your lefty FAKE NEWS ?

Good point on Labour though BT, I do think they have miscalculated badly. For short term gain they decided to oppose what they called a hard Tory Brexit, but as I pointed out on here several times, a hard Tory Brexit is a chimera, it doesn't exist, the Tories are Remainers, Cameron, Osborne, May, Hammond all campaigned to Remain, and the vast majority of Tory MPs are Remainers. Labour seem to have decided to oppose the Government's attempts to negotiate our exit from the EU on the basis that they were opposing the government and that was the job of the opposition, but they weren't taking on the Tory government, May was only carrying out her obligation to honour the referendum result but it wasn't Tory policy to Leave, so Labour weren't opposing the Tories, they were actually taking on the 17.4 million people who voted to Leave.

Now they find themselves on the same Soft Brexit side as the Tories, the Establishment, the Banks, the CBI, the unelected elite of the EU, and in opposition to 17.4 million Leave voters, who have no choice now but to turn to UKIP if they want out of the EU. How on earth did Jeremy, who has never been a fan of the EU, allow this to happen ?