what advice would you give RMT unioin

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People no longer commuting to their work by train particularly in the South East of England should be a concern to the leaders of the RMT and Aslef unions as it will only be a matter of time before the rail services are cut back with the rail companies asking for volunteers for redundancy.
According to an article in today’s Daily Mail the U.K. Government owned rail company LNER have put on four extra trains daily between Edinburgh Waverley and Taybridge stations to take golf fans attending the Open Championship in St Andrews to and from Leuchars station as the Scottish Government owned Scotrail are still operating an emergency timetable until Wednesday 20th July 2022.
There has been no mention about this by Nicola or by the pro SNP BBC Scotland news programmes.

It's a national disgrace that anyone, UK Government or Scottish Government funded, should put on any extra transport for this Tory infested event at St. Andrews whilst normal people are left to struggle to get to events like TRNSMT any which way they can without as much as a second thought by our Nanny State leaders.

Get them all tae ****, and they can take their daft wasted walk game with them.

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It's a national disgrace that anyone, UK Government or Scottish Government funded, should put on any extra transport for this Tory infested event at St. Andrews whilst normal people are left to struggle to get to events like TRNSMT any which way they can without as much as a second thought by our Nanny State leaders.

Get them all tae ****, and they can take their daft wasted walk game with them.

How many people were attending TRNSMT which was taking place close to the centre of the City of Glasgow.
It was stated that there would be 290,000 people attending the Open Championship in St Andrews including Nicola Sturgeon who was photographed spectating at the Open Championship last Friday. There was a photograph of her in yesterday’s Herald.
It was not stated whether she took took the train to get there to save CO2 emissions or was chauffeured there in one of the Scottish Government owned limousines.

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How many people were attending TRNSMT which was taking place close to the centre of the City of Glasgow.
It was stated that there would be 290,000 people attending the Open Championship in St Andrews including Nicola Sturgeon who was photographed spectating at the Open Championship last Friday. There was a photograph of her in yesterday’s Herald.
It was not stated whether she took took the train to get there to save CO2 emissions or was chauffeured there in one of the Scottish Government owned limousines.

It's irrelevant how many or where. If it's good enough for boring, old fart, good walk wasting golfers it's good enough for lively young festival goers.

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It's irrelevant how many or where. If it's good enough for boring, old fart, good walk wasting golfers it's good enough for lively young festival goers.

Why are we pretending we need railways when the puppeteers don't want us going anywhere 😳

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Why are we pretending we need railways when the puppeteers don't want us going anywhere ��

Fair point. We should be restricted to 2,000 cubits travel every day, the olde worlde Jews weren't as wrong as they were painted by civilised Christain society obviously. That'll stop the virus and global warming all in one fell swoop, probably end the war in Ukraine too.

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It's irrelevant how many or where. If it's good enough for boring, old fart, good walk wasting golfers it's good enough for lively young festival goers.

You could say the same about people who go hill walking for a hobby.

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You could say the same about people who go hill walking for a hobby.

A sport of kings, pitting your mind and body against the elements and the mountains. Takes real tenacity, determination and plenty Lukozade energy pouches. Not quite as leisurely as strolling round a park thwacking a defenceless ball with a stick.

And of course the wonderful hill walkers can find their own way from home to the top of a remote mountain and don't depend on public transport.

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A sport of kings, pitting your mind and body against the elements and the mountains. Takes real tenacity, determination and plenty Lukozade energy pouches. Not quite as leisurely as strolling round a park thwacking a defenceless ball with a stick.

And of course the wonderful hill walkers can find their own way from home to the top of a remote mountain and don't depend on public transport.

Golfers do not get lost on a golf course whilst some hill walkers manage to get lost on the Scottish mountains requiring mountain rescue teams to go out looking for them.
There is also a considerable expense to the public purse if RAF helicopters have to be used looking for these missing hill walkers.
I cannot see the point of hill walking in Scotland. When you reach the top of a hill in Scotland there is a higher one in the distance. Unless of course you are climbing Ben Nevis which is a mountain.

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Golfers do not get lost on a golf course whilst some hill walkers manage to get lost on the Scottish mountains requiring mountain rescue teams to go out looking for them.
There is also a considerable expense to the public purse if RAF helicopters have to be used looking for these missing hill walkers.
I cannot see the point of hill walking in Scotland. When you reach the top of a hill in Scotland there is a higher one in the distance. Unless of course you are climbing Ben Nevis which is a mountain.

Oh, you think hill walkers only walk up hills? What's the difference between a hill and a mountain anyway? Is Ben Nevis the only mountain in Scotland? If Ben Nevis is a mountain what's Ben Vrackie? A hump? A tiny sticky out bit? a rolling high land?

I suggest you research hills and hill walking. I can help with that research because you don't seem to be very good at researching.

On a more serious note, of course people get lost in the remote areas of Scotland - same as they do in the remote areas of any country. The weather turns very quickly in the mountains (sorry hills) and inexperienced or poorly prepared people can become disorientated. However part of the hobby is the planning and preparation; get that right and it's unlikley you'll get lost. I'm from the generation that can plan and prepare but then I know lots of people from 18 to 80 who do hill walking and can also plan and prepare - must all be from the same generation I guess.

When you reach the top of a hill in Scotland you get one of three things. You get wet because you're in cloud and can see nothing, you get fantastic views because there are no clouds or you get stunning views because you're above the clouds. The fact that there's another mountain to climb after that one is half the point. A bit like golf, you knock the ball into one hole with your stick then there's another hole for you to knock your ball into with your stick another 200 yards away - what fun.

People pay into the public purse so that services like SAR can be made available to them when they're needed so any argument that a helicopter is a considerable cost to the public purse is moot because without us, the public, there is no helicopter. I know plenty people who have needed air lifted out of the mountains due to bad luck and injury. Helicopters do sometimes help search for missing hill walkers but by the time the helicopter is required it's fair to assume the missing person or people have had an accident and are unable to find their own way home. That's what we pay into the public purse for - it's not called Search And Rescue for nothing is it?

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In the cadet corps at school we were let loose with a map and a compass and some elementary training on map reading in and around Cultybraggan. Aged 13 with a 16 year old lance corporal in charge Dressed in that thick brown battledress fabric. It got wet slowly because it was so thick and by the time the water had soaked through your body had warmed it up to skin temperature. Everything was fine as long as you kept moving and kept your body temperature up.
When you stopped moving you very quickly cooled down so campfire was a challenge to replace the warmth and try to dry out. Happy days, and not a nanny in sight.