O/T Labour

[Trickytreesreds]

Before the referendum you were advocating a Swiss or Norwegian model. You can’t even remember what you were saying, let alone anyone else.

No I wasn't.

The biggest factor stopping that would be freedom of movement.
All this talk of economics is fine, but Brexit it deeper than that.

The biggest squealers from MP's, business leaders and celebrities are multi millionaires. They don't suffer bog all from the downside of membership.
Pressure on low paid jobs/housing/services/crime etc.

So those two models would never satisfy the average leaver.

What I did say was, "is why do you have to be in a political union, to have free movement of goods?"

When we joined, we was sold a common market model. Y/N?
Was a drive for a superstate ever mentioned Y/N?
Was no borders/ monetary unions/ an army/ removal of sovereignty/ our laws changed ever mentioned? Y/N?

The EU has slowly gripped Europe in a vice of control, as it leeched into every crack of society.

I know what the ballot paper said BFP.

It said leave or remain.
Of the two I chose leave.
We have all heard the promises made by politicians. It's a pity some of them can't look in a mirror and realise they are obligated to implement them.

[Elite_Pie]

We have all heard the promises made by politicians. It's a pity some of them can't look in a mirror and realise they are obligated to implement them.

The vote was to leave the EU. The deal Mrs May has negotiated will see us leave the EU if it is adopted.

If you were an MP, surely you would give it your full support?

[forwardmagpie]

What were the questions? I realise that nobody can see into the future, if that was what you were asking.

No it was questions about the past, but to be honest I don’t think you will reply (or are particularly bothered if you do) because even with Elite spin it won’t fit in with your argument which is already pretty weak.

Have a good weekend enjoy the shopping😏

[Trickytreesreds]

The vote was to leave the EU. The deal Mrs May has negotiated will see us leave the EU if it is adopted.

If you were an MP, surely you would give it your full support?

I'm not fully against her deal.
I don't like the small print keeping us trapped in the single market.
OUT WAS OUT. No ifs, no buts.
We are not leaving Europe, we are leaving the EU.
A sensible trade deal is preferred. But not to satisfy EU desires of control.

I'm not even against freedom of movement.
What I'd compromise with, would be that you can come here.
But you will get no benefits/housing/free medical/free education/ claiming for family members who aren't even in the country for five years. I'd expect this to apply to any Brit abroad as well.

This will sort out the surge in low paid free loaders and if you are here, you have no choice but to work.
It's the poor here that feel neglected and need support first.
If you can pay your way and provide us with your skills, you're very welcome.
After all, this is supposed to be the way it is around the world.

[Elite_Pie]

Have a good weekend enjoy the racing😏

Corrected that for you.

Festival trials day at Cheltenham tomorrow.

[Elite_Pie]

It's the poor here that feel neglected and need support first.

Nice to see you moving to a more socialist viewpoint.

[forwardmagpie]

Corrected that for you.

Festival trials day at Cheltenham tomorrow.

If I was on the jury I would find you guilty

[Elite_Pie]

If I was on the jury I would find you guilty

If the charge was being quicker-witted than you, I'd guess the guilty verdict would be unanimous.

ps You are welcome to join me for the real thing in March. I'd even give you 'mate's rates'.

[forwardmagpie]

If the charge was being more of a tit than you, I'd guess the guilty verdict would be unanimous.

ps You are welcome to join me for the real thing in March. I'd even give you 'mate's rates'.

Changed it for the purposes of accuracy and yes why not.

[dam617]

Here's David Davis before the referendum. The look on Margaret Beckett's face when he suggests the EU would cave in after 3 months is brilliant.

https://youtu.be/KGztlK3rSKc

Ah, David Davies. At the time he was the man tasked by May to work on a 'deal' called Canada +++ whilst simulataniously instructing Olly Robbins to work with Barnier on Chequers behind his back.
The things he didn't know eh?