All the best Ray!

[darrenshedtastic]

for all of thompson's mistakes, its another manager who has been backed fully financially and yet to achieve their aim. Mixu might have been the wrong choice in our relegation season but he was backed hugely to get us out of the situation we were in and didn't happen. and Ray has been backed to get us out of the division. yeah could argue its thompson's fault in the 1st place we are where we are but he its not as if he hasn't backed managers to improve our circumstances.

wish ray all the best in the future. just wasnt meant to be.

[thefutureistangerine4]

for all of thompson's mistakes, its another manager who has been backed fully financially and yet to achieve their aim. Mixu might have been the wrong choice in our relegation season but he was backed hugely to get us out of the situation we were in and didn't happen. and Ray has been backed to get us out of the division. yeah could argue its thompson's fault in the 1st place we are where we are but he its not as if he hasn't backed managers to improve our circumstances.

wish ray all the best in the future. just wasnt meant to be.

Unfortunately for some people there are no shades - everything is black or white. ST is a very bad man that only does very bad things.....These people are incapable of seeing anything positive once they have made their assessment. Regardless of the cock-ups that ST has carried out he has without question financially backed his managers.

[LSArab]

I’d love to know what we are supposed to be seeing that is so positive??

Flogging any saleable assets and what sometimes seems to be one out one in. Squad getting weaker each season. Depends what you call ‘financially backing’.

[Chick A Saw]

for all of thompson's mistakes, its another manager who has been backed fully financially and yet to achieve their aim. Mixu might have been the wrong choice in our relegation season but he was backed hugely to get us out of the situation we were in and didn't happen. and Ray has been backed to get us out of the division. yeah could argue its thompson's fault in the 1st place we are where we are but he its not as if he hasn't backed managers to improve our circumstances.

wish ray all the best in the future. just wasnt meant to be.

I cant agree that Ray has been backed as much as people think. Things started getting fishy when the revolving door stopped early on, then the whole Fyvie signing tomorrow...... oh wait...... no money we need to get rid of Bell and a few others along the way!

To me, backing the manager is signing Fyvie, THEN get rid of the others!

TFT4, when on about what has gone before since before Houston left, there really should be no shades between Black and White. I am never gonna be happy at what ive seen happen at the club. Until i see it in black and white that it was all for the long term good of the club, i just cannot accept that all we have to show for selling player after player is the another promising young managers career is in ruin!

I do wish Ray all the best, but it was too big a job so soon in his managerial career.

[thefutureistangerine4]

I’d love to know what we are supposed to be seeing that is so positive??

Flogging any saleable assets and what sometimes seems to be one out one in. Squad getting weaker each season. Depends what you call ‘financially backing’.

Ok. I will give it a go. Let me try this. So we all agree he messed up with some of the sales and the lack of investment and oversaw us being relegated. Some bad decisions.

At end of last season his manager comes to him with suggestions on who he needs to sign to get us promoted this year. He knows we don't actually have the money for some of these signing but agrees anyway to push the boat out with SPL rated players in a championship team. That is a POSITIVE thing surely?? Now the fact it has not worked out so far cannot all be down to him or have I missed something?

[LSArab]

Don’t think anyone said it was all down to ST.

His running of the club though has been the main problem in last few years - who else is it suggested is to blame for one of the best supported clubs in the country languishing in the championship.

We have sold millions of pounds worth of players in last 5 years. Financial backing would surely involve at least re-investing that money coming in in the team

You cannot ignore or divorce what has happened from this summer. He has put us in this terrible position. We get a turnover of players, the best leaving for elsewhere, and free transfers in on a team budget said to be bigger than other clubs in the division (but we are by far the best supporter club in this division)

I’m sorry but it is pretty plain for me that the sooner this terrible owner departs the better. I just wish he would do us supporters the favour of selling up cheaply so we can all move on

[thefutureistangerine4]

I cant agree that Ray has been backed as much as people think. Things started getting fishy when the revolving door stopped early on, then the whole Fyvie signing tomorrow...... oh wait...... no money we need to get rid of Bell and a few others along the way!

To me, backing the manager is signing Fyvie, THEN get rid of the others!

TFT4, when on about what has gone before since before Houston left, there really should be no shades between Black and White. I am never gonna be happy at what ive seen happen at the club. Until i see it in black and white that it was all for the long term good of the club, i just cannot accept that all we have to show for selling player after player is the another promising young managers career is in ruin!

I do wish Ray all the best, but it was too big a job so soon in his managerial career.

In relation to you point about Bell my understanding is that he was commuting from Ayrshire to St Andrews for training. Have you done that drive? I would'nt fancy doing that more than occasionally. Once Cammy knew that Killie were interested in him probably at a similar wage without a 5 hour round trip it would be hard to motivate him to stay. It was not about money. Like I say not everything is black and white. There are shades.... People don't like that though they prefer everything to be linear. We have signed Fyvie so the greedy b*trd has gone and punted Bell. People will believe what they want to believe ultimately.

[thefutureistangerine4]

Don’t think anyone said it was all down to ST.

His running of the club though has been the main problem in last few years - who else is it suggested is to blame for one of the best supported clubs in the country languishing in the championship.

We have sold millions of pounds worth of players in last 5 years. Financial backing would surely involve at least re-investing that money coming in in the team

You cannot ignore or divorce what has happened from this summer. He has put us in this terrible position. We get a turnover of players, the best leaving for elsewhere, and free transfers in on a team budget said to be bigger than other clubs in the division (but we are by far the best supporter club in this division)

I’m sorry but it is pretty plain for me that the sooner this terrible owner departs the better. I just wish he would do us supporters the favour of selling up cheaply so we can all move on

Not an unreasonable post. And agreed he needs to go. Where are the buyers.....?

[Chick A Saw]

In relation to you point about Bell my understanding is that he was commuting from Ayrshire to St Andrews for training. Have you done that drive? I would'nt fancy doing that more than occasionally. Once Cammy knew that Killie were interested in him probably at a similar wage without a 5 hour round trip it would be hard to motivate him to stay. It was not about money. Like I say not everything is black and white. There are shades.... People don't like that though they prefer everything to be linear. We have signed Fyvie so the greedy b*trd has gone and punted Bell. People will believe what they want to believe ultimately.

On his commute, it was said on here as Annan! And i have done those drives on many an occasion and had differing experiences of that trip. Suppose its all down to what you drive i suppose and ive not done it in my current cars. More of an A93 guy than motorways though!

And if it wasnt about money, why was his transfer so long winded? When Cammys reasons were so clear cut, should have just let him go! Wee Jim was right about players staying near the club they play at!

[offshore_arab83]

Unfortunately for some people there are no shades - everything is black or white. ST is a very bad man that only does very bad things.....These people are incapable of seeing anything positive once they have made their assessment. Regardless of the cock-ups that ST has carried out he has without question financially backed his managers.

Not always, i dont think anyone can argue with the backing of the managers, thats never been in question, its everything else out chairman does/has done that riles the support...