O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[ragingpup]

No mate washing-up is often my job !

Yeah. Me too. Bloody Jews.

Oh!! :-)

[BigLadonOS]

I honestly don't understand what you're arguing? You linked to an article about Corbyn being anti semitic.wasn't that your argument. You now seem to have moved into summat else? What you talking about? I'm baffed?

The antisemitic point you talked about was not the original reason I posted the link. I mistakenly took the video as a small clip from a show Corbyn was on and not just a news item and I got that wrong.

The other reply was about Corbyn saying things like the UK could cause war not stop it by saying bad things about countries (I.E) Iran without proof yet he was more than happy to point the blame in that interview without proof. 2 faced comes to mind about this horrid man.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

As time ticks by more people, including many Labour Party supporters, are realising that Corbyn is “a wrong ‘un”

[WanChaiMiller]

Mr Corbyn said the government’s response was making war more likely.

“Britain should act to ease tensions in the Gulf, not fuel a military escalation that began with US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement,” Mr Corbyn said. “Without credible evidence about the tanker attacks, the government’s rhetoric will only increase the threat of war.”

Tell me I am wrong.

What is wrong with what Corbyn has said? Hes been consistent in this type of message all his political career.

Many ate critical of Blair for jumping in with the US in Iraq without ^proper intellegence' on WMD.

Im not saying this in any way to make a point he may be a good leader. I just dont see what is wrong with the comment.

[ragingpup]

The antisemitic point you talked about was not the original reason I posted the link. I mistakenly took the video as a small clip from a show Corbyn was on and not just a news item and I got that wrong.

The other reply was about Corbyn saying things like the UK could cause war not stop it by saying bad things about countries (I.E) Iran without proof yet he was more than happy to point the blame in that interview without proof. 2 faced comes to mind about this horrid man.

I don't think that Corbyn is saying that it is wrong for the US/UK to suspect and ask questions about possible Iranian involvement, just as we had every right to be suspicious of Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction. The line I think for Corbyn is, quite rightly, that you should seek absolute proof before you take military action against the country you suspect.

[great_fire]

From the Jewish people I've read on Twitter, most of them seem to be socialists and internationalists so I don't really know why Corbyn has a problem with them as they seem to be on the same side to me.

[ragingpup]

From the Jewish people I've read on Twitter, most of them seem to be socialists and internationalists so I don't really know why Corbyn has a problem with them as they seem to be on the same side to me.

In my experience, Jewish folk, generally, tend to be quite community focused and very big on collective work with strong family and community support bases. They have always had a natural affinity with the Labour movement but on the whole are quite moderate. The problem is on the very fringes where the idiot few still see Jewish business moguls as being behind mass capitalism and oppression of workers, a 'conspiracy'. It is, of course, *******s. But those idiot few do a lot of damage when many have recently joined the party on the back of Corbyn.

But I emphasise that, just as in the Conservative party with the anti Islam issue clearly there, those few can do an awful lot of damage when 1. You have a media with their own agenda to highlight and even twist every instance. 2.ever present centrist anti Corbynistas that feed the media eagerly to get rid of him. 3.an inability or unwillingness from all concerned to distinguish between criticism of Israel government policies and actual anti semitism and 4 a leadership that are mixed between their slowness to react and respond to the media flack mixed with their insistence on actually investigating complaints, as opposed to Watson's desire to throw anyone accused out of the party without a hearing.

To be clear, Corbyn has no problem with Jewish people as shown when he stood in solidarity with their communities against neo nazi demonstrations in the 1970s. Again, one of the few politicians who did.

[KerrAvon]

Doesn't it worry you, raging that you have to spend so much time 'interpreting' what the top of your party says or just making up excuses for them?

Genuine question.

[BigLadonOS]

Doesn't it worry you, raging that you have to spend so much time 'interpreting' what the top of your party says or just making up excuses for them?

Genuine question.

Why are you 2 continuing this on because in all honesty none of you are really interested in debate because all you do quote some article or other at each other that you only go out to try and find once a question is posed to you or you throw back the question "show me" instead of actually taking the time to find things out yourself.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Why are you 2 continuing this on because in all honesty none of you are really interested in debate because all you do quote some article or other at each other that you only go out to try and find once a question is posed to you or you throw back the question "show me" instead of actually taking the time to find things out yourself.

It’s all very Duncan Norvelle