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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    The club couldn't get Barnard and Sheron out of the club quick enough when we dropped down to League One under Parkin .

    Both were on huge money from our better days , neither would move an inch mate .

    Bruce Dyer was in the same boat but at least he produced .
    Lee Crookes n all bleeding the club dry back then.

    Yes, there's an element of risk signing players on 4 year deals but for me it shows intentions and ambition. Fair play to the board. As Jules sez, owt could happen next season and one way or another it'll be exciting I'm sure

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    Weear a thu all going to laik ? Add the nine new ones, all saying they are looking forrad to playing, to the existing squad, and thaz gorra few restless players to look after. The ones from overseas, particularly, will be sluffened if they are not playing and trying to settle,

    The club were slated in the Summer of 2017 for bringing in a whole team of players inexperienced in the Championship all at once. Now it's the opposite and praise is bestowed. It's a funny owd world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    No Exile, they should never release the release Clause, it’d be suicide if you really stumbled on a gem. All contract even four year ones aren’t worth a lot, as the player will Sulk, moan, disrupt and p*ss about if he wants away to get what he wants, and we as Barnsley can’t afford to punish them “a la Gareth Bale”. It just means that when they want away, they will go, and clubs (mostly) give in before the player does.......
    As a point of interest, can anyone think of any player that has been left “Languishing in the reserves” anywhere? After saying they wanted away.
    Are you not overlooking the part agents play Jules
    When a player feels he wants to leave,agent will be telling potential suitors anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRed48 View Post
    Weear a thu all going to laik ? Add the nine new ones, all saying they are looking forrad to playing, to the existing squad, and thaz gorra few restless players to look after. The ones from overseas, particularly, will be sluffened if they are not playing and trying to settle,

    The club were slated in the Summer of 2017 for bringing in a whole team of players inexperienced in the Championship all at once. Now it's the opposite and praise is bestowed. It's a funny owd world.
    We've only actually added three additions SB , six players either in the team or around it have left .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRed48 View Post
    Weear a thu all going to laik ? Add the nine new ones, all saying they are looking forrad to playing, to the existing squad, and thaz gorra few restless players to look after. The ones from overseas, particularly, will be sluffened if they are not playing and trying to settle,

    The club were slated in the Summer of 2017 for bringing in a whole team of players inexperienced in the Championship all at once. Now it's the opposite and praise is bestowed. It's a funny owd world.

    Fair point SB, there has been a big turnover very much like in 2017. It could go tyts up, theres no denying that however, may I say that from January 2017 to June 2017 we lost far too many 1st team regulars including several loanees who also made a decent contribution to the 1st team.

    Hourihane, Winnall, Bree, Roberts, Scowen, Watkins, White were all 1st team regulars that left. Ryan Kent, adam Armstrong, matty James, Gethin Jones were all on loan and made a big contribution also left. That is a big hole to fill by anybody's standards.

    Goat went art and signed a surplus of midfielders fo peanuts and Thiam for 1million. We left us sens woefully short up front and again we brought in far too many loan players to try and paper over the cracks in a panic.

    In 2019 we have lost 4 first team regulars in Potts, Lindsay, Pinnock and Davies. We have brought in 2 goalkeepers, 3 center aifs, a reight back, 2 wingers (one with an eye for goal) and signed Bahre on a permanent basis. All these on either three or four year contracts. Not a loan player in sight.

    We've done our business early and done it reight. We ent signed players for the sake of it like Goat did. We've covered all the squad positions with more than one option with the exception of the strikers. However, Malik Wilkes looks capable of goals and laikin in theear.

    Am a sceptic as tha knows SB but last neet a weighed it up and yes, thuz no championship experience coming in but these players are a step up on what we usually sign. They come from decent set ups in most cases. The money is being reinvested and we're guin abart our business swiftly. It suggests to me that these signings have been lined up for a while. That is a far cry from the summer of 2017 in my humble opinion.

    There are concerns in that we are buying in a lot from abroad which may see them take extra time to settle in and obviously the experience issue but that's how we roll now. Lets just gerron wi it. Some may well flop but twas ever thus. We have a very robust looking young side with a very good head coach. On the whole I'm pleased with our business and have a gut feeling we'll be oreight this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    Fair point SB, there has been a big turnover very much like in 2017. It could go tyts up, theres no denying that however, may I say that from January 2017 to June 2017 we lost far too many 1st team regulars including several loanees who also made a decent contribution to the 1st team.

    Hourihane, Winnall, Bree, Roberts, Scowen, Watkins, White were all 1st team regulars that left. Ryan Kent, adam Armstrong, matty James, Gethin Jones were all on loan and made a big contribution also left. That is a big hole to fill by anybody's standards.

    Goat went art and signed a surplus of midfielders fo peanuts and Thiam for 1million. We left us sens woefully short up front and again we brought in far too many loan players to try and paper over the cracks in a panic.

    In 2019 we have lost 4 first team regulars in Potts, Lindsay, Pinnock and Davies. We have brought in 2 goalkeepers, 3 center aifs, a reight back, 2 wingers (one with an eye for goal) and signed Bahre on a permanent basis. All these on either three or four year contracts. Not a loan player in sight.

    We've done our business early and done it reight. We ent signed players for the sake of it like Goat did. We've covered all the squad positions with more than one option with the exception of the strikers. However, Malik Wilkes looks capable of goals and laikin in theear.

    Am a sceptic as tha knows SB but last neet a weighed it up and yes, thuz no championship experience coming in but these players are a step up on what we usually sign. They come from decent set ups in most cases. The money is being reinvested and we're guin abart our business swiftly. It suggests to me that these signings have been lined up for a while. That is a far cry from the summer of 2017 in my humble opinion.

    There are concerns in that we are buying in a lot from abroad which may see them take extra time to settle in and obviously the experience issue but that's how we roll now. Lets just gerron wi it. Some may well flop but twas ever thus. We have a very robust looking young side with a very good head coach. On the whole I'm pleased with our business and have a gut feeling we'll be oreight this season.
    Hecky bless him never had a team he could trust , a style of play sorted and was totally overwhelmed with it .

    This is massively different in that Stendel still has the nucleus from last season and the recruits brought in to suit his style of playing .

    This could go tyts up of course and I wouldn't dismiss that scenario but I'm same as you mate and I think we will have enough .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jules88 View Post
    No b*gger will be able to predict how we are going to play, and how well we are going to do. With so many changes it will be a more possible plus to us than a minus.
    With the previous Personnel we knew we had limitations, even in League one....... With this lot, and so many additions, we just don’t know.
    Excited again?
    Yeah....
    I bet the bookies will still have us down to finish bottom though.

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    Correct - bookies have us outright favourites for relegation. But similar price for top half finish!
    3/1 top half 14/1 top 6 - big difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    Are you not overlooking the part agents play Jules
    When a player feels he wants to leave,agent will be telling potential suitors anyway
    No .... who do you think tells them
    To sulk, P* ss and moan

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    Quote Originally Posted by pass_and_move View Post
    Fair point SB, there has been a big turnover very much like in 2017. It could go tyts up, theres no denying that however, may I say that from January 2017 to June 2017 we lost far too many 1st team regulars including several loanees who also made a decent contribution to the 1st team.

    Hourihane, Winnall, Bree, Roberts, Scowen, Watkins, White were all 1st team regulars that left. Ryan Kent, adam Armstrong, matty James, Gethin Jones were all on loan and made a big contribution also left. That is a big hole to fill by anybody's standards.

    Goat went art and signed a surplus of midfielders fo peanuts and Thiam for 1million. We left us sens woefully short up front and again we brought in far too many loan players to try and paper over the cracks in a panic.

    In 2019 we have lost 4 first team regulars in Potts, Lindsay, Pinnock and Davies. We have brought in 2 goalkeepers, 3 center aifs, a reight back, 2 wingers (one with an eye for goal) and signed Bahre on a permanent basis. All these on either three or four year contracts. Not a loan player in sight.

    We've done our business early and done it reight. We ent signed players for the sake of it like Goat did. We've covered all the squad positions with more than one option with the exception of the strikers. However, Malik Wilkes looks capable of goals and laikin in theear.

    Am a sceptic as tha knows SB but last neet a weighed it up and yes, thuz no championship experience coming in but these players are a step up on what we usually sign. They come from decent set ups in most cases. The money is being reinvested and we're guin abart our business swiftly. It suggests to me that these signings have been lined up for a while. That is a far cry from the summer of 2017 in my humble opinion.

    There are concerns in that we are buying in a lot from abroad which may see them take extra time to settle in and obviously the experience issue but that's how we roll now. Lets just gerron wi it. Some may well flop but twas ever thus. We have a very robust looking young side with a very good head coach. On the whole I'm pleased with our business and have a gut feeling we'll be oreight this season.
    Plenty of good points there Pass but my main concern is the lack of experience of the lads coming in. It's OK buying in bulk and giving them long term contracts but I'm not as excited as some at the quality coming in. It's natural to think those coming in must be better than those leaving but, stripping away the PR hype, we have brought in the following "experience" to play in the Championship--

    Mallik Wilks 20 Accrington, Grimsby and Doncaster

    Bambo Diaby 21 Serie C sides on loan/free transfers, 1 game for Lokeren in Belgian 2nd tier

    Aapo Halme 21 Helsinki and 4 games for Leeds

    Toby Sibbick 20 26 games for Wimbledon

    Mads Andersen 21 20 games for Horsen in Danish Superliga

    Brad Collins 22 Loans at Forest Green and Burton, then released

    Sam Radlinger 26 loans from second tier Hannover, then released

    Luke Thomas 20 loans at Gloucester and Coventry

    Bahre signed following loan here

    Green and Miller signed in January

    I'm sorry but the general excitement and talk of brilliant signings has yet to register with me but two or three may come off at Championship level.

    This Kone is the only one I would be genuinely excited to see come here burrits all abart opinions.
    Last edited by SBRed48; 06-07-2019 at 11:57 AM.

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