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    Don't agree in terms of pure luck in its true sense (Cambridge Dictionary: "...the force that causes things to happen to you by chance and not as a result of your own efforts or abilities"). You can't "make" that. Brentford did nothing to "create" the penalty, unless you can call diving "creative".
    I do agree, however, that when confidence is high, more things seem to go your way, Again, though, Champs you are surely going too far in suggesting Bennett MAKES the team more unlucky! As you say, for one of the penalties awarded against him, he was actually already on the floor, and the opposition player deliberately ran into him. It was just as bad a decision as the one on Saturday. So - yes - you CAN call it bad luck! What is the alternative? To argue that if it had been someone other than Bennett, the Huddersfield player wouldn't have done it?
    No-one sane is arguing that the team isn't much improved. I am just against you writing players off altogether.
    I gather that Buckley struggled a bit on Saturday, in a defensive sense. Several fans on the Telegraph site have said that if we were going to play 4-4-2, it might have been better to have Bennett out wide in his natural position. I don't know because I didn't see the game, but it does demonstrate that not everyone sees EB in the same totally negative light as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    Don't agree in terms of pure luck in its true sense (Cambridge Dictionary: "...the force that causes things to happen to you by chance and not as a result of your own efforts or abilities"). You can't "make" that. Brentford did nothing to "create" the penalty, unless you can call diving "creative".
    I do agree, however, that when confidence is high, more things seem to go your way, Again, though, Champs you are surely going too far in suggesting Bennett MAKES the team more unlucky! As you say, for one of the penalties awarded against him, he was actually already on the floor, and the opposition player deliberately ran into him. It was just as bad a decision as the one on Saturday. So - yes - you CAN call it bad luck! What is the alternative? To argue that if it had been someone other than Bennett, the Huddersfield player wouldn't have done it?
    No-one sane is arguing that the team isn't much improved. I am just against you writing players off altogether.
    I gather that Buckley struggled a bit on Saturday, in a defensive sense. Several fans on the Telegraph site have said that if we were going to play 4-4-2, it might have been better to have Bennett out wide in his natural position. I don't know because I didn't see the game, but it does demonstrate that not everyone sees EB in the same totally negative light as you.

    Nyambe doesnt give silly pens away. Never has, never will.
    That on Sat was trhe best performance in absolute years, vrs a very good team, who also played well and attacked us.
    No Bennett, no Williams, no Mulgrew, no Smallwood.
    A young lad played (Buckley) and played very well, and contributed.
    Bennett is fine coming on for 3 mins at the end.
    There is a reason it was our best performance in years.
    There was a reason we are in such great form since last Nov.
    There is a reason why we have gained the most points in the whole division since Nov.
    There is a reason why this side are looking so good.
    There is a reason why we are looking like we could end up in the play offs.
    There is a reason why we look just as Brentford (a team who everyone has raved abouty all season long)
    The reason isn't down to a fluke.
    A solid defence, an excellent goalkeeper. A decent midfield, and one of the most inform strikers around.
    And young lads, stepping in and playing well, and scoring goals. Or creating them.
    Bennett hasn't scored a goal in 2 and a half seasons. He rarely creates anything.
    Back when we where a mid-table side going absolutely nowhere, yes, you put Bennett in on the right and bottle playing young Buckley.
    There was a reason we where going nowhere.
    Like there is a reason we are going in the right direction now.
    Faith in young players, who are performing better than the likes of Bennett.
    And crucially, no Bennett, no Mulgrew, no Williams, no Smallwood, no Graham. None of the crap thats been holding us back so long.
    And right now, everyone is in the side on merit. Not because he did a half decent job 2 seasons ago in Div1.
    Time to get real, time to get tough, time to move on.

    I couldn't care less what some idiot on the LET thinks about Bennett playing. Its irrelevant.
    Its not even a discussion point anymore. We moved past him, and all the others quite some time ago.
    You aren't disagreeing with me anymore, you are disagreeing with Mowbray. Who went this way for a reason.
    And all the talking is being done on the pitch.
    On Sat, our best performance in years, was with Bennett.
    Buckley is the future. And is performing very very well. And growing each game.
    Why stop that growth? For Elliott bennett?
    Not only is that nonsense, it also will remain this way unless we get injuries. As a club, as a team, we have moved past that now. Onto the next phase.
    Brentford are probably ****ting it now. As they won't go up automatically, and will likely face us in the play-offs, and I will tell you now, they wont want to play us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AucklandRover View Post
    Don't agree in terms of pure luck in its true sense (Cambridge Dictionary: "...the force that causes things to happen to you by chance and not as a result of your own efforts or abilities"). You can't "make" that. Brentford did nothing to "create" the penalty, unless you can call diving "creative".
    I do agree, however, that when confidence is high, more things seem to go your way, Again, though, Champs you are surely going too far in suggesting Bennett MAKES the team more unlucky! As you say, for one of the penalties awarded against him, he was actually already on the floor, and the opposition player deliberately ran into him. It was just as bad a decision as the one on Saturday. So - yes - you CAN call it bad luck! What is the alternative? To argue that if it had been someone other than Bennett, the Huddersfield player wouldn't have done it?
    No-one sane is arguing that the team isn't much improved. I am just against you writing players off altogether.
    I gather that Buckley struggled a bit on Saturday, in a defensive sense. Several fans on the Telegraph site have said that if we were going to play 4-4-2, it might have been better to have Bennett out wide in his natural position. I don't know because I didn't see the game, but it does demonstrate that not everyone sees EB in the same totally negative light as you.

    Again, though, Champs you are surely going too far in suggesting Bennett MAKES the team more unlucky! As you say, for one of the penalties awarded against him, he was actually already on the floor, and the opposition player deliberately ran into him. It was just as bad a decision as the one on Saturday. So - yes - you CAN call it bad luck! What is the alternative? To argue that if it had been someone other than Bennett, the Huddersfield player wouldn't have done it?

    Ever since Nyambe has been back in the side, not only have we looked 100 times better, not only have results been proven to have improved ten fold, also no pens given away. I suggest going back to the incident vrs Hudd's. It was soft yes. The fact Bennett let the winger go round him was unbelievably soft. The winger was giving him the run about. You have clearly forgotten that.
    Our weak link that day was Bennett. As it was in numerous other games. Not THE Reason we didn't win, but a big factor.
    Back at this stage of the season, luck or lack of it was being discussed. Since Nov, since Nyambe has been back in the team, how many times has luck been a factor? How many pens has he given away (Bennett conceeded 3) how many dropped points? Crucially, how many times do you see Nyambe getting the run around from a winger? I'll say it .......never! Not by some ****e Hudd's winger....and certainly not the best winger in the division who we faced on sat, who didn't get past Ryan once.
    I don't care what you post in response to this, or what some guy on the LET thinks. And why he thinks playing Bennett right now is a good idea. Sorry, but that's ridiculous.

    If we ended up going up with the injuries we have sustained surley Mowbray would get manager of the season.
    That would destroy most peoples viewpoint on the LET, therefore not one of them are worth listening to.

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    Plus it wasnt ever going to be Bennett playing. It was only ever going to be Gallagher or Buckley.

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