Of course I’m being selective...we’re all being selective but I’m not impressed when supporters of something start talking of economic pain and fifty years of recovery. These are not, imo, aspects/risks of Brexit that people were made aware of in 2016 and appear very much at odds with the sentiments emblazoned on the side of Boris’ bus.
I value your opinion on the EU...you’re resident in mainland Europe and are probably more familiar with the ‘incoming replacements’ than me. You also, although we differ at times, always try and offer a balanced opinion. Having said that, aren’t you also guessing at what the end game is?
Including England and Wales I think I’ve visited seven European countries in the last twelve months or so and each continues to have its own identity. I see no evidence of our British way of life being threatened by the EU and I do see benefits.
More to the point, by remaining as a powerful member do we not stand more chance of influencing the direction and form this ‘inefficient monolith’, as you put it, is likely to take?
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Of course they're not worried about your 3 series Tricky, it'll break down before October and you'll have to buy another one, more chance of your manager lasting 10 weeks then that thing.
No. Verhofstadt et al have said that the problem with the EU is that it doesn't have enough power and that the member states must pass ever more power and influence over to the EU, culminating in a federal Europe.
They spent decennia denying that a US of E was the aim. they now openly embrace it.
I'd just like to be one of the first to congratulate Boris on being our new PM.
Here's hoping he gets Brexit over the line on the 31st October, the futures bright the futures Boris!
THE DREAM TEAM
MoP...I don’t necessarily believe him and usually take anything he says with the proverbial ‘pinch of salt’ but you have to admit it’s not encouraging when the arch advocate of Brexit provides such a ‘doomsday’ scenario.
As for the rest...Leavers don’t have the monopoly on wanting our country to do well.
I imagine you and I want the same thing...a strong, respected and trusted nation with improved health care, a well funded education system, better housing, an improved transport system and more adequately funded police service etc. You think Brexit will, eventually, bring us all that whereas I think it will jeopardise any chance of us achieving those aims for the foreseeable future.
We disagree and are both entitled to our views, but you are wrong, imo, to portray Remainers as in any way wanting our country ‘to fail’. Quite the reverse.