I didn't want us in the playoffs this season anyway!

[eddy779h34]

Eddy of course your right but only stating the obvious . We had virtually no money to spend so where do you pick up a Tomori Mount or Wilson . Not like theve gone to another Championship club is it Dowell was never going to be a regular at Sheff U they were already top of the league when he went there Clarke is untried but if Chris Hughton was prepared to pay £3million for him he must have thought he would make a Prem player Shinnie is decent player captained Aberdeen and came for free Paterson always been a bit hit and miss ,but he has more skill to create something than any other player we have As for Chelsea loans did you see the cryptic message that Jody Morris out on Twitter about MM that could maybe the reason In not sure

No I didn't see any message like to see it though..........
Dowell never got much game time with Sheff Utd when they were our division

[AdiSalisbury]

You can debate as much as you like but Mount Wilson & Timori have been replaced with Dowell Paterson & Clarke
there's your problem
Blame the club as a whole for not bring in like for like replacements
Call themselves knowledgable football people absolute joke, any Derby fan could foresee this was going to happen

Dowell never got regular football for Sheff Utd
same can be said of Paterson ask your self why ..........now we know why .......
Clarke untried Championship player
same as Shinnie
Amazing to think this has been allowed to happen
Where were the Prem loans , no help from Chelsea which surprises me

Spot on mate

[mistaram]

No I didn't see any message like to see it though..........
Dowell never got much game time with Sheff Utd when they were our division

No he didn't get much game time he was only there to make sure they had enough players to get them over the line They play with wing backs so only two midfield places ,never going to shift Norwood and Fleck was he ,there still their first choice now Sheff U spent £15million in the summer on midfielders Besic and Robinson and they can't get a game Dowell never had a problem getting a game at Forest and they are in our division

[Trickytreesreds]

No he didn't get much game time he was only there to make sure they had enough players to get them over the line They play with wing backs so only two midfield places ,never going to shift Norwood and Fleck was he ,there still their first choice now Sheff U spent £15million in the summer on midfielders Besic and Robinson and they can't get a game Dowell never had a problem getting a game at Forest and they are in our division

Yes but he was in a poorer side then.
On his day Dowell could look brilliant. The next game anonymous.
Paterson not much different. Had a good run, then became a passenger. Attitude was the reason he went out the door.

[MadAmster]

Paterson had a good run, then became a passenger. Attitude was the reason he went out the door.

Now I understand why Patto said he was surpised when Derby came in for him........ he was surprised any team would...........

[DCFCArmy]

"no money"

We spunked 10m on bielek lol

[mistaram]

Yes but he was in a poorer side then.
On his day Dowell could look brilliant. The next game anonymous.
Paterson not much different. Had a good run, then became a passenger. Attitude was the reason he went out the door.

Tricky he wasn't in any worse team than he is now Yes he is inconsistent like most Championship players that's why they are Championship players

[mistaram]

"no money"

We spunked 10m on bielek lol

£7 million actually but it's ok to write him off after 5starts in two different positions

[swaledale]

£7 million actually but it's ok to write him off after 5starts in two different positions

We have paid over the odds for a lot of non performers over the past few seasons, is that because the players were dross or because the club is unable to get the best out of them?

I do not see Cocu as long term, he has failed miserably to get any style, any fluidity or pattern in the team so far, at least with Lampard one could see what he was trying to do, even if on occasion the players weren't up to it.

Rarely call for a managers head, but with this guy mid table obscurity beckons!

[ramAnag]

We have paid over the odds for a lot of non performers over the past few seasons, is that because the players were dross or because the club is unable to get the best out of them?

I do not see Cocu as long term, he has failed miserably to get any style, any fluidity or pattern in the team so far, at least with Lampard one could see what he was trying to do, even if on occasion the players weren't up to it.

Rarely call for a managers head, but with this guy mid table obscurity beckons!

Not sure about your appraisal of Cocu, Swale.
He’s an intelligent and vastly experienced football man who has hardly had the best of luck since he took over.
Not only has the club struggled/proved unable to replace three players now deemed to be of Premiership quality, but we’ve had ‘JoinersGate’, the long term loss of our captain/defensive rock and disruptive injuries to three crucial players in Bogle, Huddlestone and Marriott.
I know it’s been a disappointing first two months of the season but I reckon any new manager would have struggled given those circumstances.