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Thread: the blind and te dumb are easily lead

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Nahhh, this wasn't dire football. This was a team that tried for 90 minutes and balanced it all out.
    We're never going to agree with Rafa set ups and that's fair enough.
    I stand by digging at him because he deserved it.
    Against Man Utd he deserved the plaudits, as did the team he set up for the ENTIRE match to have a go.

    I'd love to give him plaudits till the end of the season and beyond of he sets us out to have a god and be afraid of nobody.

    Balance is all that's required.
    I'm not asking for gungho football as massive risk taking. Just what we saw against Man Utd.
    I agree that in too many games we have defended the lead too early, especially against teams of our own calibre or slightly worse that we should've beaten. However, the tactics that we employed against Man Utd weren't that different - it worked because the team was playing well, as ronandtet is also pointing out. And also, like you say Ghost, because we gave it a go the full 90 mins, though we increasingly defended more than possessing the ball and attacking. So it's a combination. But the main thing is that a player like Shelvey stepped his game up (and Yedlin and Lejeune and Gayle and Diame and Dubravka etc.), something that he hasn't done because he's been lazy, bad-tempered, out of form, out of luck or Rafa couldn't motivate him (depending on how you look at it).

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    Not you Ron..

    Didn't realise pboros quote would disappear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashingtoon62 View Post
    How lang is this shoite ganning to gan on for FFS..
    Massive massive win against manure of all clubs..and this little sh it is argueing/bullying/sulking FFS...
    Pointless.
    Last edited by ghostrider; 13-02-2018 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    I agree that in too many games we have defended the lead too early, especially against teams of our own calibre or slightly worse that we should've beaten. However, the tactics that we employed against Man Utd weren't that different - it worked because the team was playing well, as ronandtet is also pointing out. And also, like you say Ghost, because we gave it a go the full 90 mins, though we increasingly defended more than possessing the ball and attacking. So it's a combination. But the main thing is that a player like Shelvey stepped his game up (and Yedlin and Lejeune and Gayle and Diame and Dubravka etc.), something that he hasn't done because he's been lazy, bad-tempered, out of form, out of luck or Rafa couldn't motivate him (depending on how you look at it).
    Ok let me try and put it in a better frame.

    Against Man Utd, of course we defended a lead but we also attempted to add to it, as and when we had the chance.
    We knew a team like Man Utd would come at us, like any team would that is trying to get back into the game....and this is the key issue.

    You see, in many other games we attacked many teams in the first half and many times we took the lead.
    Then we would get pegged back or go behind in short order.
    The second half would see us set out for damage limitation rather than having a real go. That's my issue.

    All I asked for was a horses for courses game in a balanced way.
    Against Man Utd I was excited and entertained.
    Against most teams this season I've been mind numbed and depressed.

    Very few games gave me excitement.
    All I ask for is that kind of have a go mentality.

    I would also expect us to go on and finish lesser teams off when we are in the ascendency or at least try to rather than holding on to a draw at home or the likes.

    If Rafa keeps this mentality up we will more than comfortably hold our own this season which I've stated on many occasions.
    I also said we were not a championship team and the resurgence of players proves it...but....I don't really want to play tit for tat arguments with everyone saying, " I told you so" because we can all bring up a whole host of past posts that can paint us all in hypocritical lights.

    That's the nature of being a fan of any club, whether you're top of the tree or hanging from weak branches of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    Pointless.
    Who rattled your fecking cage?

    Oh and by the way,nice editing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashingtoon62 View Post
    Who rattled your fecking cage?

    Oh and by the way,nice editing...
    Hence why I said, Pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashingtoon62 View Post
    Not you Ron..

    Didn't realise pboros quote would disappear...
    Wish Ghostboro would f'uckin disappear.

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