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    re: Queens v Alloa

    Some good points as usual in these posts.

    Despite what many think, it is not a criticism of McIntyre per se, just some constructive advice.

    If I was manager, I wouldn't hesitate to remove McKenna or Russell on a booking as they are loose canons just waiting to explode.

    If Reilly was on a booking, or wee Danny, or Burnsy, - I wouldn't worry too much.

    Queens cannot risk loosing a man and potentially the points at this stage of the season, so it is tactical madness to keep someone like McKenna on the pitch if he is already booked.

    Furthermore, McKenna and Russell will inevitably be sidelined due to suspension, so at 3-0 and cruising, why not try some alternatives? It's not as if McShane and the American lad are not quality players for God's sake!

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    re: Queens v Alloa

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    3 first class goals on Saturday.

    Some of the papers and verbal reports suggested Lyle's 3rd goal was a tap in! Far from it, the build up was superb and Tan Man still had a lot of work to do, to control the first time volley and convert it past their keeper

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    On reading back through this thread, nothing much changes or are we so fickle here in Dumfries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truthhurts View Post
    On reading back through this thread, nothing much changes or are we so fickle here in Dumfries?



    i agree truthhurts ,alot of the queens faithful just keep ticking over with blinkered eyes half the time ,we get to a level then stay there we never seem to strive to move up a level ,so we will keep seeing the same problems arise from year to year even with multiple change in personel at the club ,i suppose we are in the same boat as most the teams throughout scotland dictated too by budgets ,these same probs will always arise ,in whe big picture i think we aint too far away from having a good squad ,we just need to keep on a forward momentum ,replacing who we thinks worst with better gradually that should take us up ,but we are now in a senario where we have a superstar in the team this is when we need to strike while we have players like dobs and harkins ,thay wont be playing for long .

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    diff is with the clubs that take extra steps is there fans dont settle for it and pressure there club to move on ,where as queens fans just accept it in the name of keeping the team out the red ,unless we get lucky very lucky like what livi done it would take a miricle for queens to take the next step .

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    This debate looks back to the times under Harkness when Queens were happy to be playing it safe in the old Second Division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis_begbie_HFC View Post
    diff is with the clubs that take extra steps is there fans dont settle for it and pressure there club to move on ,where as queens fans just accept it in the name of keeping the team out the red ,unless we get lucky very lucky like what livi done it would take a miricle for queens to take the next step .
    You talk utter ****e Francis. Do you actually know how lucky we are to have a well established championship side and be able to attract some of the great players we’ve had over the last decade or so. You’re never happy

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    There are definitely some financial restrictions for us but one of the problems is that we dont seem to have the youth coming through on a regular basis. Yes we recently had a very good period with one cohort but we need it to be consistent, especially if we aren't investing heavily in the squad.

    Football is at the point where we really do need proper investment to take us to the next level and unfortunately it looks as if we have hit our ceiling. If we are going to go up we are going to have to play the long game and be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloreburn View Post
    You talk utter ****e Francis. Do you actually know how lucky we are to have a well established championship side and be able to attract some of the great players we’ve had over the last decade or so. You’re never happy
    your like a broken record aloreburn ,im pointing out that queens get to a respectable level with some good players then bang ,we dont keep it going and slowely add to the talent ,this is what happens over the years ,your the typical queens fan that settles for what we have ,thats why queens never make improvements year on year ,as long as these types of fan accept stagnation it will stay ,im no way having any dig at queens im just stating how its been for as long as iv been supporting them ,i used to get excited when we build a decent squad only to see them take a backward step instead of keeping it going ,we atm have dobs and harkins and a squad of decent level ,we need to go for it this season or next if we want to do it before dobs and harkins retire .

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    why do you think queens dont attract the floating fans we do have a decent support in dumfries sleeping fans who just might start coming along again ,this is prob the main reason we are stuck with the hardcore faithful .

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptQueens View Post
    If we are going to go up we are going to have to play the long game and be patient.
    Most people in Dumfries do actually look out for the Queens result on Saturday even though they couldn't really care if they won or lost. However there are many more out there who are disillusioned with all the mediocrity and averageness of a stagnating Championship side that hasn't had a sniff of top class football in nearly 60 years!

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    What does our wage bill look like compared to other teams at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptQueens View Post
    What does our wage bill look like compared to other teams at the moment?
    I would expect Queens to have one of the lowest budgets and wage bills in the Scottish Championship.

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    Truthhurts, - I'm astonished at your quote:

    "...... However there are many more out there who are disillusioned with all the mediocrity and averageness of a stagnating Championship side that hasn't had a sniff of top class football in nearly 60 years!"

    That may well be 'their' view point, but it would appear that it is you who is making the statement!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBERTZ_11 View Post
    This debate looks back to the times under Harkness when Queens were happy to be playing it safe in the old Second Division.
    I think it is now 54 years since we last played in the top league although we could have been there in 1974 - 75 after finishing runners - up to Falkirk by one point only for the powers that be to bring in the Premier League to which we
    were not allowed in. To be honest the last decade is probably the best period in our 99 year history with 2 League Championships and two Challenge Cup wins with two other appearances in the final, a Scottish Cup Final and a UEFA
    Cup 2 - leg tie. Never say never but imo I cannot see QOS in the top league in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftivano1 View Post
    I think it is now 54 years since we last played in the top league although we could have been there in 1974 - 75 after finishing runners - up to Falkirk by one point only for the powers that be to bring in the Premier League to which we
    were not allowed in. To be honest the last decade is probably the best period in our 99 year history with 2 League Championships and two Challenge Cup wins with two other appearances in the final, a Scottish Cup Final and a UEFA
    Cup 2 - leg tie. Never say never but imo I cannot see QOS in the top league in the near future.


    ftivano i do think we are heading in the right direction off the field with the board generating ways to get income in through infrastructure ,negating the need for money at the turnstyles ,but we do have the fans out there its just there expectations are far greater than what the hardcore fans expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis_begbie_HFC View Post
    ftivano i do think we are heading in the right direction off the field with the board generating ways to get income in through infrastructure ,negating the need for money at the turnstyles ,but we do have the fans out there its just there expectations are far greater than what the hardcore fans expect.
    Perhaps it is just that the hardcore fans have more realistic expectations rather than the floating supporters who will only infrequently turn up on the big occasion then disappear again when the going gets tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikefaethesouth View Post
    Perhaps it is just that the hardcore fans have more realistic expectations rather than the floating supporters who will only infrequently turn up on the big occasion then disappear again when the going gets tough.

    yep your prob spot on there aswell ,these floating fans will only pay for success ,thay obviously arnt here atm as we arnt coming near what there after ,the way i see it queens have a hardcore of about the 2000 mark in dumfries if all could attend at same time ,id estimate we will have around an extra 3 to 4000 that regard themselfs as queens fans but rarely attend and the rest id say hopefuls .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jardi View Post
    Truthhurts, - I'm astonished at your quote:

    "...... However there are many more out there who are disillusioned with all the mediocrity and averageness of a stagnating Championship side that hasn't had a sniff of top class football in nearly 60 years!"

    That may well be 'their' view point, but it would appear that it is you who is making the statement!
    I can remember Cowdenbeath playing at Palmerston just after they had been relegated and thinking as kid how great it was to see such a big team playing against Queens. I am afraid to even think about how many of the current lower league teams have played in the top division since we were relegated. Believe me Jardi, people in this town do want a real challenge from Queens and would return to watch games if we were more ambitious.

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