Zele Ismail

[wolves71]

He's barely 20 years old. Still plenty of time to make a player of himself. Expectations shroud our opinion of him. McAlinden is older than Zeli and yet some salivate over the unproven striker. Difference is, Ismail has had huge expectations for a long time whereas McAlinden is only coming to our notice within the last 2 years. Neither are shoo-ins for the future, but I like the potential of both. Liam has looked solid in his time on the pitch. Zeli has had some good moments too.

I'm basing what I'm saying on having watched the players under discussion a number of times not on any other criteria! Mich I do know as do others what we are talking about especially being able to watch a subject first hand !![/quote]

But what about others who have watched him and their reports contradict yours? I'm not arguing he's ready to be a Wolves

[MichiganWolf]

OK fair comment I'd welcome anyone who has seen him play over the last couple of year's comments, but as I 've said If he was gonna be anything like he would of shown it by now, a la Owen ,Giggs Rooney, Beckham ,he just ain't all that Mich believe me!!

Oh I don't think he's got a chance to be the level of those players. If he were, one of the bigger clubs would have snatched him up already. I think a Jarvis level player is his ceiling with a good League One player being his floor. If he ends up being a good Championship player, I'd be happy with that. It would be a disappointment considering his early hype, but with some objectivity, that's still a solid product of the academy.

[Evewolf65]

OK fair comment I'd welcome anyone who has seen him play over the last couple of year's comments, but as I 've said If he was gonna be anything like he would of shown it by now, a la Owen ,Giggs Rooney, Beckham ,he just ain't all that Mich believe me!!

Oh I don't think he's got a chance to be the level of those players. If he were, one of the bigger clubs would have snatched him up already. I think a Jarvis level player is his ceiling with a good League One player being his floor. If he ends up being a good Championship player, I'd be happy with that. It would be a disappointment considering his early hype, but with some objectivity, that's still a solid product of the academy.[/quote]



MaCalinden is my great hope Mich as I and my bretheren long for the big tall striker of old Wolves were famous for a certain style of play and it paid dividends we always played two wingers and

[Evewolf65]

Break me down by all means but a prospective 100 million Prodigy doesn't normally need to go out on loan TWICE as I've said previously Jarvis and Kightly at the same age would P1$$ all over him he isn't that good!

[Woking88]

Break me down by all means but a prospective 100 million Prodigy doesn't normally need to go out on loan TWICE as I've said previously Jarvis and Kightly at the same age would P1$$ all over him he isn't that good!

Going out on loan twice is nothing compared to some players. He needs first-team experience. He won't get that at Wolves, so he has to go out on loan to develop.

Forget the 100 million prodigy, that is just journo-hype. As for comparisons with Jarvis and Kightly, he is neither of those and neither you or I are in a position to assess his development requirements.

He may turn out to be a superstar and then again, he may not. Whatever the case, I would think the club are doing what is best for his development.

[MichiganWolf]

Break me down by all means but a prospective 100 million Prodigy doesn't normally need to go out on loan TWICE as I've said previously Jarvis and Kightly at the same age would P1$$ all over him he isn't that good!

Different players develop at different rates. Rickie Lambert was thought of highly as a youngster and made his second tier debut with Blackpool at the age of 17. Then he moved onto Macclesfield and Stockport county and only scored 26 goals over his next 142 league games (a majority played in the third tier). Not a great line for a striker. Most probably thought he found his level in his early 20s. Had a very good year with Rochdale in League Two, then got signed by Bristol and had a mediocre year in League Two with 8 goals in 36 games, then a solid year with 13 goals. After that he took off and had 4 straight years with 20 goals, one of those seasons in the Championship. Had 15 goals in the Prem last year and has 8 so fa

[Evewolf65]

Break me down by all means but a prospective 100 million Prodigy doesn't normally need to go out on loan TWICE as I've said previously Jarvis and Kightly at the same age would P1$$ all over him he isn't that good!

Different players develop at different rates. Rickie Lambert was thought of highly as a youngster and made his second tier debut with Blackpool at the age of 17. Then he moved onto Macclesfield and Stockport county and only scored 26 goals over his next 142 league games (a majority played in the third tier). Not a great line for a striker. Most probably thought he found his level in his early 20s. Had a very good year with Rochdale in League Two, then got signed by Bristol and had a mediocre year in League Two with 8 goals in 36 games, then a solid year with 13 goals. After that he took off and had 4 straight years with 20 goals, one of those seasons in the Championship.

[Woking88]

Just what Mich and I have been saying:- - view external link

[Evewolf65]

Break me down by all means but a prospective 100 million Prodigy doesn't normally need to go out on loan TWICE as I've said previously Jarvis and Kightly at the same age would P1$$ all over him he isn't that good!

Different players develop at different rates. Rickie Lambert was thought of highly as a youngster and made his second tier debut with Blackpool at the age of 17. Then he moved onto Macclesfield and Stockport county and only scored 26 goals over his next 142 league games (a majority played in the third tier). Not a great line for a striker. Most probably thought he found his level in his early 20s. Had a very good year with Rochdale in League Two, then got signed by Bristol and had a mediocre year in League Two with 8 goals in 36 games, then a solid year with 13 goals. After that he took off and had 4 straight years with 20 go

[MichiganWolf]

Luckily he doesn't need to set transfer records and move onto play for the likes of Spurs, Liverpool and Inter to be considered a success for Wolves.