Four wins in five games?

[Sma11ytheRam]

Should we beat Brighton on Saturday. Three wins in four home games as it stands ATM.

At the start of the season we didn't win any of the first five. Funny how things can turn round so quickly in football isn't it!!!!!

Representatively that's promotion form at home in the league. 2.4 points per game.

No wonder the positive supporters can't understand all these negative posts.

[Manofpride]

Funny how statistics can be used to how you want them, I prefer your way Sma11y lets stay positive.
Who was it who said:- There are lies, damned lies, and statistics!

[dcfcdavecov]

Well played, sir.

[Rattea]

Thanky you smalley for PROVING my point about stength of opposition.

Of the five games we lost 3 those three sides currently lay 1st 2nd and 7th. We have only one win higher all season above 7th and thats Brighton away.

That would actually show things havent changed they have actually stayed the same when looking at strngth of opposition and not random cobination of games.

Looking at the other two games they were draws ad both thos sides lay 8th and 9th.

We lost to Wigan who are 10th!

Teams below this we have beaten consistently with the odd draw.

When you look at STRENGTH OF OPPOSITION and patterns its funny how things actually HAVENT CHANGED!!!

We have only Three wins, three draws and seven loses all season using current placings against top of the table opposition ... thats not a very confidence building stat is it

In the lower half of the table 10 wins and 2 draws ... the pattern with Current and previous management is the same. Although Clough boasts the

[swaledale]

[quote="Rattea"]Thanky you smalley for PROVING my point about stength of opposition.

Of the five games we lost 3 those three sides currently lay 1st 2nd and 7th. We have only one win higher all season above 7th and thats Brighton away.

That would actually show things havent changed they have actually stayed the same when looking at strngth of opposition and not random cobination of games.

Looking at the other two games they were draws ad both thos sides lay 8th and 9th.

We lost to Wigan who are 10th!

Teams below this we have beaten consistently with the odd draw.

When you look at STRENGTH OF OPPOSITION and patterns its funny how things actually HAVENT CHANGED!!!

We have only Three wins, three draws and seven loses all season using current placings against top of the table opposition ... thats not a very confidence building stat is it

In the lower half of the table 10 wins and 2 draws ... the pattern with Current and previous manageme

[eamonnram]

Well said swales. Rat man really does need to bore off with his stats charts.. I swear yoy are a red dog rat boy. All you do is slate the team even when we are on a good run. It doesn't matter who you play 3 points is 3 points. We are 4th in the leauge for **** sake. And still all you do is bleat on about how clough is better than steve mac. Clough the man that had 5 years and took us to mid table. Wow

[blackandwhite56]

Rattae you are presumably are too thick to realise what you are doing.

Whats happened to like for like ?? Have you now ditched that?

What is the possible justification for including Chelsea in this table ... they are almost a full league away from us?
Of course it helps to hide the fact McClaren has only 2 current top 7 matches to compare against Clough's 5 matches.
Comparing the way you do is just to suit the outcome you want.

Using current form often months later rather than form at the time match was played allows you to avoid all sorts of things you don't want to face. Brighton were performing poorly when Clough's Derby beat them. Blackpool were top six when McClaren's Derby beat them.
But the real problem is that the way you are trying to evaluate form.
During the winning run McClaren could have done no better than beat the teams we played ( an that included a top 6 Blackpool). Winning so many on the trot is so rare that it should tell even you that McClaren was doing somethi

[stamfordram]

One good thing his chart does show is that we have 12 games left against teams in the bottom half of the table versus 9 against the top half...this must bode well considering our ability to beat these supposedly lower grade teams.

I still think we could make the play offs even if our results against the top 4 teams go against us.

Surely if we finish above last season's position then progress has been made

[Beardyram]

So we lose to teams in the top six but beat the teams below us. Would we be better off if we beat QPR, Burnley and Leicester but lost to Yeovil, Millwall and Barnsley. The argument is pointless. If we were to beat all teams it would be a world record. ...all teams lose games no matter who the ooppositio.

[Rattea]

Beardy no its not. Two points to consider.

1. The form in the bottom half of the table under both managers is 'almost' faultless. will that continue for 12 more games? Look at the bottom six we average 3 points a game. Say we lost the next to the average drops to 2.25. that would mean you need to start picking up points where we currently are not.

2. Is it better to beat say Barnsley than QPR if you consider the above? If you lose to OPR you fall behind three points more but that may not happen on the week if you do Yeovil.


FAILDale your stating facts and saying I have said things I havent yet again soo your point is moot. Might be worth waiting for one of the big boys to sit down with you and explain it to you I am using current position as the longer the season goes on the better that true position is reflected. we have covered this before. I dont care if we played Watford a few weeks into the season and they happened to be second its where they are now. You again show y