what a load of **** holes on the direby site

[i961pie]

No one is denying what a great achievement it was by Forest to win 2 European cups or by Liverpool, Man Utd. Villa or Celtic but that doesn't stop the fact it is a more difficult thing to win now than it was then so don't get paranoid about it.

Paranoid

The only bunch of fans that denigrate what we achieved is your sad and sorry bunch of no mark muppets. Can't really think why that would be can you?

If it is more difficult to win now how come Chelsea etc etc? It is simply a long money generating exercise designed to protect the big clubs from going out in the early stages - we had no such luxury. Lose and out.[/quote]

I work with a couple of Villa fans and even they agree the competition is much stronger now and harder to win. That doesn't take away what a great achievement it was for them and you to win the European cup.

[anonypie]

Two things come to mind for me, that are the defining factors in the difference of the two systems.
1. Seeding. The big guns are kept away from each other till the later stages. In the original format, the luck of the draw prevailed.

2. Squads. Most of the better teams now have too big a squad to use and manipulate. Those players are mainly of foreign origin and quality.
The original format saw most teams use mainly home grown players and the quality was limited.
To have a player suspended could easily result in your exit from the competition. Not now though.
Money now rules the competition, not guile/tactics/luck/passion and even conditions.

Wow. You're alive!

[Elite_Pie]

Poor old Tricky hasn't been well at all. After the Derby game he was struck down with a severe bout of fivegoalitis. He had just got some silly pictures together to post on our board when he suffered another bout at the weekend.