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    re: One more push - Aberdeen on Sunday

    Quote Originally Posted by wellin
    Going by the last few games, hanging on in the second half of games, i think some of the player's are maybe carrying wee knocks and not doing to much training during the week and it's now beginning to tell.
    I'm not saying this isn't a factor but its not the main reason. We've been playing this way for most of the season. The basic problem is that the midfield, especially in the centre, is imbalanced and the defence hasn't been playing well, although its been left exposed. Goalkeeping hasn't been our strongest point either. Tactics too have played their part.

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    I don't see us doing it either, not that I'm too bothered about it.

    It's not a certainty as before Tannadice the Dons were also wobbly. And missing a few players - hopefully Flood doesn't recover - makes a big difference to the too.

    But we seem to be running on empty right now.

    I just hope we don't get tonked, the players don't deserve to end on a real low after a campaign like this.

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    Tactics too have played their part
    This being one of McCall's failings as rarely gets right and incapable of changing during a game the odds are stacked against. With the exception of Lasley key creative players are off form, i.e. McFadden, Vigures and Ainsworth and if these 3 fail to perform throughout the 90 mins and/or drift out the game, our chances of victory were as likely Scotland beating England at cricket in Aberdeen yesterday ... they lost.

    We have over achieved this season and 3rd admirable, should have won 2nd spot outright had we beaten Killie, Hibs and St Mirren before the split .. all poor sides and where lost guaranteed 2nd spot but our frailties came back to haunt .. again.

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    re: One more push - Aberdeen on Sunday

    All true... but you just never know. At the moment my heart is full of optimism but my head is full of dread...and my gonads are ready to get a kicking come full-time tomorrow aftrenoon. 'Mon the 'Well.

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    Sorry for delay to your request lawman as not been on site but here we go. On our last 15 visits to Aberdeen we have lost 2 with the last defeat coming in 2008 and over that time we have won the majority of them. Every season since McCall been manager we have managed a victory up their and have all ready done so this season so we know how to win their. Everybody says decisions even themselves out over a season so hopefully in Sunday they go our way as must be due a few. We also got a big chunk of luck on wed night in last minute when McKay hit post so maybe our luck is changing as we will need that on Sunday as well. All in all I have not said we will win as still unsure to be honest but I totally believe that we can win and I'm sure it will come down to who gets the breaks on the day but as bob the builder said can we do it YES WE CAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasdeid
    Tactics too have played their part
    We have over achieved this season and 3rd admirable, should have won 2nd spot outright had we beaten Killie, Hibs and St Mirren before the split .. all poor sides and where lost guaranteed 2nd spot but our frailties came back to haunt .. again.
    Don't really understand how you can say we overachieved yet still should have had second wrapped up by now. Yes, we dropped stupid points but his happens to everyone over the year. Aberdeen took one from nine v Hearts!

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    In an earlier post, I said I thought Aberdeen were a better team than us, but the "Stats" don't back that up. We have won 21 games to their 20.Only Celtic have won more than Motherwell. I know we have struggled from time to time but this is an excellent achievement.

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    yes it is an excellent points total we have accumulated but to be honest the standard of football at times has been dire . Unfortunately there is no sign or indication that this is likely to change...and I don't just mean with Motherwell but the whole of Scottish football. However go on 'Well it'll look good in the record books and those sheep need taking down a peg or two

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    Don't really understand how you can say we overachieved yet still should have had second wrapped up by now
    Accept lack of clarity.
    IMO with the squad we started season thought Top 6 a possible goal. Many posted we'd be relegated (?)
    However, performed better than initially thought in a poor SPL and maintained good position throughout - IMO we over achieved.
    Aberdeen and Dundee Utd were unknown quantities and soon became apparent vastly improved from last season.
    St Johnston are another side who improved and Inverness maintained their form until Butcher departed.
    Accept we recently defeated both but we were Raphael Sheidt against both and narrowly won.

    As the split approached we were in a good position and should have secured 2nd place with wins over bottom SPL sides before
    final games. Accept we are still in the hunt but doubt will secure the win at Aberdeen for reason given above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouialpha
    yes it is an excellent points total we have accumulated but to be honest the standard of football at times has been dire
    Dire compared to what? Last season's side? English Premiership? Scottish Championship? Well teams under Maurice Malpas or Bobby Howitt?

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    [quote="bheron" don't back that up. We have won 21 games to their 20.Only Celtic have won more than Motherwell. I know we have struggled from time to time but this is an excellent achievement.[/quote]

    They have picked up more points than us to date so to date they have been better than us. In every head to head game they have been the better team sure they have had some shocking referee assists against us but frankly all that did was ensure they got what their play against us was meriting.

    If we win tomorrow we will have the second best team in the league , if we lose we will have the 3rd best team in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "steviex" don't back that up. We have won 21 games to their 20.Only Celtic have won more than Motherwell. I know we have struggled from time to time but this is an excellent achievement.[/quote

    They have picked up more points than us to date so to date they have been better than us. In every head to head game they have been the better team sure they have had some shocking referee assists against us but frankly all that did was ensure they got what their play against us was meriting.

    If we win tomorrow we will have the second best team in the league , if we lose we will have the 3rd best team in the league.
    It's always interesting reading this board. I agree with the last post.

    Of course Motherwell can win tomorrow. They've already won at Pittodrie and we've lost to much worse teams this season.

    I hope and

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    Aye, that's not unfair. But I think - and this is either through poor conditioning as some suggest, or the sum of our injury problems over the season - we're clearly blowing out our backsides right now.

    As said elsewhere, whoever finishes with most points deserves to be second from us and Aberdeen but my impression is they've been more solid than we have and 'deserve' it more. They've maybe had some bad days but nothing compared to the absolute horror shows we occasionally throw in. We've taken advantage of other teams opening the door for us a lot - which I'm delighted with - but despite the superior results, I don't think the actual quality of this side matches that of the last two years.

    However, regardless of how we got to where we are, the players do deserve credit. Given how we always throw away good cup opportunities, it is at least something that we've seized them in the league in recent years.

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    I think what has been said here sums up the beauty of football. That the team on paper who should win don't always get a result, rather it's the team who maximise their potential and give the best performance on the day. If motherwell come together tomorrow and work as an effective unit with no basic errors. There is every chance of a victory.
    I struggle to remember a game this season, bar the most recent Celtic one, where the whole 90mins was a good performance. Far too many times in the final 20mins the team go into backs to the wall mode. Which is crazy and self defeatist. They must try to own a game, retain possession, frustrate the opponent and stamp their authority instead of lining up with an eight man defence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sup3rw3ll
    I think what has been said here sums up the beauty of football. That the team on paper who should win don't always get a result, rather it's the team who maximise their potential and give the best performance on the day. If motherwell come together tomorrow and work as an effective unit with no basic errors. There is every chance of a victory.
    I struggle to remember a game this season, bar the most recent Celtic one, where the whole 90mins was a good performance. Far too many times in the final 20mins the team go into backs to the wall mode. Which is crazy and self defeatist. They must try to own a game, retain possession, frustrate the opponent and stamp their authority instead of lining up with an eight man defence!
    The thing that jumps out from your post is the posession quote that is so true. I cannot remember a Motherwell team for many a year that is so Chronically bad at that very aspect of the game. Christ knows why

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    Gonads intact... yfb. Craig Reid give that man a contract.

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    Never in doubt. Ahem.

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    re: One more push - Aberdeen on Sunday

    Stroll in the sand

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    Never mind a contract...Give him the freedom of motherwell...That was magic...

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    re: One more push - Aberdeen on Sunday

    Quote Originally Posted by neillyboy
    A repeat of the Boxing day result will do nicely. It's not Barcelona we're playing. Mon the 'Well
    ...and lo and behold. Get in there Motherwell. Brilliant result and huge congratulations on finishing second. COYW

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