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    69th anniversary this month

    The Two A-Bombs brought the second world war to an end. - view external link

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    I just can't see why some people glorify war, although in this instance I would say these bombings were necessary. Although two cities full of people were completely wiped out in cold blood and thus a war crime the loss of life in taking Japan would have been much much more. In a war of survival not of our making such actions are sometimes necessary as was the fire bombing of Dresden in Europe although a civilian target was important in providing important infrastructure to the Germans. Perhaps people who make these wars possible, the state sponsored terrorists who kick off these events should start to question orders from their leaders before committing the world to such madness.

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    Not sure glorifying is the right word.
    They were necessary, despite their terror.
    Without them, a lot more would have died, using conventional weapons. Also, why should those lives lost be allied lives?
    The Japanese, were not only the aggressors, but the most barbaric monsters the world had seen in a long while. The Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians,Philippians,Thais,Borneans will all testify to it. Rape, murder, destruction all for the hell of it.
    The Military ruling body, showed a complete disregard for any human life, even their own.
    I haven't even touched on the barbarity against allied prisoners.

    So bad? Yes and No. The world changed overnight.
    What they did bring, was 70 years of non major wars.
    Nuclear power was born.
    So do I feel sorry for the Japanese? Absolutely not. They started it and I'm afraid they got what they deserved at the time.

    Here's a poser for you. At the end of the war, the Americans actually had the power to disarm the world.
    They didn't and four years later the f

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    [quote="Trickytreesreds"]Not sure glorifying is the right word.
    They were necessary, despite their terror.
    Without them, a lot more would have died, using conventional weapons. Also, why should those lives lost be allied lives?
    The Japanese, were not only the aggressors, but the most barbaric monsters the world had seen in a long while. The Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians,Philippians,Thais,Borneans will all testify to it. Rape, murder, destruction all for the hell of it.
    The Military ruling body, showed a complete disregard for any human life, even their own.
    I haven't even touched on the barbarity against allied prisoners.

    So bad? Yes and No. The world changed overnight.
    What they did bring, was 70 years of non major wars.
    Nuclear power was born.
    So do I feel sorry for the Japanese? Absolutely not. They started it and I'm afraid they got what they deserved at the time.

    Here's a poser for you. At the end of the war, the Americans actually had the power to dis

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    [quote="RedBasie"]Not sure glorifying is the right word.
    They were necessary, despite their terror.
    Without them, a lot more would have died, using conventional weapons. Also, why should those lives lost be allied lives?
    The Japanese, were not only the aggressors, but the most barbaric monsters the world had seen in a long while. The Chinese, Koreans, Malaysians,Philippians,Thais,Borneans will all testify to it. Rape, murder, destruction all for the hell of it.
    The Military ruling body, showed a complete disregard for any human life, even their own.
    I haven't even touched on the barbarity against allied prisoners.

    So bad? Yes and No. The world changed overnight.
    What they did bring, was 70 years of non major wars.
    Nuclear power was born.
    So do I feel sorry for the Japanese? Absolutely not. They started it and I'm afraid they got what they deserved at the time.

    Here's a poser for you. At the end of the wa

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    Just to add to that Basil. I did say to you the other day, that most of mans best inventions come from original military ideas.

    Radar/Sat Nav/jet engines/nuclear/gunpowder/the chariot/sailing ships/the computer/production lines/exhaust pipes/trauma medicine/super glue/jerry can/pressurised cabins/and on and on.

    So back to your favourite topic , space.
    At the moment, nuclear energy is the only feasible do able plan, to propel a craft over distances. Using nuclear power, an ion drive is the nearest we can get yet.
    Now your Enterprise and Captain Kirk has one, so the idea is practical.
    Until we learn how to "warp" space and time, the light barrier will elude us.
    But the ion drive is a start.

    Energy E = (1/2) m v2.
    Momentum p = m v
    Therefore p = sqrt(2 m E)

    I'll let Es*** do the maths.

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    You know something is not right in the world when Trickytreesreds starts talking nuclear physics.

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    Tricky- I don't believe that. Stonehenge was not a fortress, but an ancient timepiece which told our ancestors when to sow and when to reap. The pyramids were just an ancient burial mound.Navigation was made possible by studying the stars and inventing the clock. Newton discovered gravity not by killing anyone. The first Transatlantic cable was hardly military and this lead to artificial satellites orbiting the Earth and the Apollo mission and then on to mobile phones and the Internet.Materials can be tested by such pursuits such as motor racing and climbing Mount Everest or descending to the bottom of the deepest oceans.Having said that I don't think we'll ever leave our solar system for outer space. C S Lewis says that the vast interstellar distances are God's quarantine measures to prevent inter species contamination. Our only memorial will be the likes of Voyager stuck out there in space waiting for the time when another solar system drifts into it's locality.

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    [quote="RedBasie"]Tricky- I don't believe that. Stonehenge was not a fortress, but an ancient timepiece which told our ancestors when to sow and when to reap. The pyramids were just an ancient burial mound.Navigation was made possible by studying the stars and inventing the clock. Newton discovered gravity not by killing anyone. The first Transatlantic cable was hardly military and this lead to artificial satellites orbiting the Earth and the Apollo mission and then on to mobile phones and the Internet.Materials can be tested by such pursuits such as motor racing and climbing Mount Everest or descending to the bottom of the deepest oceans.Having said that I don't think we'll ever leave our solar system for outer space. C S Lewis says that the vast interstellar distances are God's quarantine measures to prevent inter species contamination. Our only memorial will be the likes of Voyager stuck out there in space waiting for the time when another solar system dr

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    Talking of anniversaries, this past week marked the 67th anniversary of Nehru's speech to mark India's independence. It's 1 of the best speeches ever, even better if read aloud. The remarkable thing is that his vision all those years ago is still relevant today.
    Nehru was a socialist and a realist. I believe it was he who started the non-aligned movement.

    I am sure Basie can identify with his ideals. - view external link

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