Bowyer in or out ?

[AucklandRover]

Out for sure now
Question is do we wait until the season ends and wait for a probable choice of manager?
Or
Change now for a Atkins or McDermott and hope for a last minute surge to the playoffs?

But to illustrate what I mean on the other threads, Robin, look up Atkins and McDermott on Wiki. Not exactly unbroken runs of success for either, would you agree?[/quote]

Its a gamble with whoever you bring in ..every club is different ..Mourinhio at Rovers ..? be a failure ..someone like McDermott could be a success ..its all about what the managers are used to working with ..financial constraints ..man management ..tactics that could work in one league may not in another ..all about experience at the level of football they ve had managerial experience at. And thats the key word ...Experience. Experience in actually managing a team and havin

[DanRrr]

It's been quite interesting from an anthropological perspective reading, (and participating in), the varying threads about Bowyer. The same views and arguments raise their heads again and again. Posters will make some points and then say what they’re seeing isn’t good enough. Then they are counter argued into micro points which indicate that their views are too simplistic. But ironically, the same counter posts make assumptions on the full reasoning and mindset of the post they are responding to, and themselves oversimplify what they are responding too. And then become too simplistic themselves in their response. It’s quite circular and goes nowhere.

[Howie5o]

Out for sure now
Question is do we wait until the season ends and wait for a probable choice of manager?
Or
Change now for a Atkins or McDermott and hope for a last minute surge to the playoffs?

But to illustrate what I mean on the other threads, Robin, look up Atkins and McDermott on Wiki. Not exactly unbroken runs of success for either, would you agree?[/quote]

Its a gamble with whoever you bring in ..every club is different ..Mourinhio at Rovers ..? be a failure ..someone like McDermott could be a success ..its all about what the managers are used to working with ..financial constraints ..man management ..tactics that could work in one league may not in another ..all about experience at the level of football they ve had managerial experience at. And thats the key word ...Experienc

[AucklandRover]

It's been quite interesting from an anthropological perspective reading, (and participating in), the varying threads about Bowyer. The same views and arguments raise their heads again and again. Posters will make some points and then say what they’re seeing isn’t good enough. Then they are counter argued into micro points which indicate that their views are too simplistic. But ironically, the same counter posts make assumptions on the full reasoning and mindset of the post they are responding to, and themselves oversimplify what they are responding too. And then become too simplistic themselves in their response. It’s quite circular and goes nowhere.

Dan - I think that's called being human.

[AucklandRover]

Out for sure now
Question is do we wait until the season ends and wait for a probable choice of manager?
Or
Change now for a Atkins or McDermott and hope for a last minute surge to the playoffs?

But to illustrate what I mean on the other threads, Robin, look up Atkins and McDermott on Wiki. Not exactly unbroken runs of success for either, would you agree?[/quote]

Its a gamble with whoever you bring in ..every club is different ..Mourinhio at Rovers ..? be a failure ..someone like McDermott could be a success ..its all about what the managers are used to working with ..financial constraints ..man management ..tactics that could work in one league may not in another ..all about experience at the level of football they ve had managerial exper

[DanRrr]

It's been quite interesting from an anthropological perspective reading, (and participating in), the varying threads about Bowyer. The same views and arguments raise their heads again and again. Posters will make some points and then say what they’re seeing isn’t good enough. Then they are counter argued into micro points which indicate that their views are too simplistic. But ironically, the same counter posts make assumptions on the full reasoning and mindset of the post they are responding to, and themselves oversimplify what they are responding too. And then become too simplistic themselves in their response. It’s quite circular and goes nowhere.

Dan - I think that's called being human. [/quote]

It's probably also down to the nature of the formate being used to discuss such things too Aucks. No tone of voice etc

[Howie5o]

It's been quite interesting from an anthropological perspective reading, (and participating in), the varying threads about Bowyer. The same views and arguments raise their heads again and again. Posters will make some points and then say what they’re seeing isn’t good enough. Then they are counter argued into micro points which indicate that their views are too simplistic. But ironically, the same counter posts make assumptions on the full reasoning and mindset of the post they are responding to, and themselves oversimplify what they are responding too. And then become too simplistic themselves in their response. It’s quite circular and goes nowhere.

So basically what youre saying Dan is that we re boring the ass off each other ??

[DanRrr]

It's been quite interesting from an anthropological perspective reading, (and participating in), the varying threads about Bowyer. The same views and arguments raise their heads again and again. Posters will make some points and then say what they’re seeing isn’t good enough. Then they are counter argued into micro points which indicate that their views are too simplistic. But ironically, the same counter posts make assumptions on the full reasoning and mindset of the post they are responding to, and themselves oversimplify what they are responding too. And then become too simplistic themselves in their response. It’s quite circular and goes nowhere.

So basically what youre saying Dan is that we re boring the ass off each other ?? [/quote]

Maybe Howie

But essentially arguing over points that haven't been made, or over assumptions that certain things haven’t been considered.

[Despair]

At the end of the day only one person (presumably) is going to make the call, no matter how many debates we have.
This call will (or should be) made, on the basis of their / her 'grand plan'.
Only way GB's potential will be discovered is by a retention, if he's replaced it proves nothing.
Equally, we can debate forever re; the 'right' replacement, but only one can be chosen. So again (all things being equal), the ones not chosen cannot prove if they could have done the job, or not.

The headline conundrum for me is: What is in Madames' mind