Vanilla and E-Type Jag.Originally Posted by Barnared
In Aberdeen/shire, the SNP got more votes than the Tories and Labour together in the list. They got zero list MSP's, whereas the Tories got 4 and Labour got 1? Therefore all those second votes for the SNP actually helped the Tories and Labour... which is exactly the opposite to what the people voting SNP wanted. Another reason why I just don't get the list vote.Originally Posted by Barnared
So, I do not see the problem if someone voted for the SNP in the constituency vote and Green in the list vote to try and reduce the chances of the Tories or Labour getting a MSP through the list if they were a SNP voter. In this case, would it not be better to vote Green as the second vote if you wanted a SNP government and less opposition from Labour/Tory?
Vanilla and E-Type Jag.Originally Posted by Barnared
@westcoastdon
Mint choc chip and a countach please.
@ OBI
I understand fully how the votes have been spread and the total voting numbers for the snp are very impressive. It is a fact however that the Scottish version of PR is based on individual areas and not just total number of votes. It is striking that the SNP have almost DOUBLE the total amount of list votes than the torys but that translates to only 4 seats to the torys staggering 24! The labour list numbers are equally staggering.
It isn't opinion, it is blatantly obvious that Conservative voters (for discussion purposes they will be known as dirty phukin scumbags) have voted x2 (const. and region) and the people who have voted the SNP in, in virtually every constituency, have handed their second vote to another party, in certain areas. This is where my retarded insult comes in because in these areas, these people either voted with one paper for the leaders and the other paper for the opposition or they voted for the
It's a relatively affluent area, it shouldn't be that surprising there's Tories around. And you're completely kidding yourself if you think all SNP voters are left wing. it would be no surprise at all to see SNP voters using their second vote for the tories. Aberdeenshire in general has never been left wing.[/quote]Originally Posted by Herman
I don't know one SNP voter who used their second vote to the Tories..
I myself SNP1& Greens 2 the Greens got a big number of votes from Nationalists and I know quite a number who were like myself.
Countach is easy. It's in the post...Originally Posted by Barnared
It's a relatively affluent area, it shouldn't be that surprising there's Tories around. And you're completely kidding yourself if you think all SNP voters are left wing. it would be no surprise at all to see SNP voters using their second vote for the tories. Aberdeenshire in general has never been left wing.[/quote]Originally Posted by Buc
I don't know one SNP voter who used their second vote to the Tories..
I myself SNP1& Greens 2 the Greens got a big number of votes from Nationalists and I know quite a number who were like myself.[/quote]
you can't know every snp voter
I think Josh Lyman said it bestOriginally Posted by TheDeeDon
https://youtu.be/7rIE0cT54yU?t=35s
Oh and despite not having an actual majority (de facto tho) I think in the long term you may be right about it being a good night for the snp, they will have to change from binary politics and they've overseen the end of Labour in Scottish politics.
Scottish Labour leader not winning their seat. Seems to be a pattern nowadays.Originally Posted by OneBrianIrvine
Unimaginable once upon a time
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She's still an MSP through the list. It is a bizarre set up but I get that it's to prevent a majority so can't all be bad. Ruth Davidson was list MSP up until this morning.
Just seems a little undemocratic when people are being paid to represent the public when nobody voted for them.
Basically I just hate Sarwar.
sarwar is one of only 2 ethnic minorities out of 129 msps
that's fairly sh1t
Be a journey but they need to be a party of the left again.
If they can aggressively go at the SNP from the left and they can chip away locally with the right local people and that will offer the route back.
Never be as dominant as they were tho.