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Thread: O/T Magic Murray in Madrid

  1. #91
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    Wimbledon final 2013 that was his A game. Blasted Djokovic off the park.

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    You can talk about mentality/bottle etc. but as far as the Djokovic/Murray match up goes, a stat as simple as first serve % is massively important. Murray's second serve has always been a major weakness and it's something he's unlikely to fix at this stage in his career. When Murray's first serve % dips below 50% it's almost inevitable that he'll lose a lot of service games as he'll lose the majority of points on his second serve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve1903 View Post
    To the opinion above that stated Murray's A game is better than that of Djokovic. Really? I reckon if you polled every senior tennis player on that question you'd get a 100% result of the opposite opinion.
    Agreed although as I said in a previous comment I do think that Murray is, at his best, a superior grass court player to Djokovic. I really thought that Murray might win consecutive Wimbledons after he won in 2013 but he simply hasn't been in top form the last two years.

    Just checked their stats on Wikipedia and Murray does indeed have a better grass court record than Djokovic (84% to 82%). Of course the sample is much smaller as there are far fewer grass court tournaments but it's interesting to see that grass is by far Murray's best surface.
    Last edited by ragnarok; 07-06-2016 at 11:10 PM.

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    Murrays first serve in percentage round by round at the French Open-
    66%, 59%, 75%, 60%, 58%, 67% and then 50% in the final.
    Djokovic’s-
    70%, 67%, 76%, 71%, 60%, 68% and then 69% in the final.
    So Murray’s serve is definitely weaker in general but to plummet so badly in the most important match highlights a problem. It could partly be due to putting extra on it because he’s aware he has to try and “serve well” against Djokovic but it also shows that under pressure it crumbles.
    A few years ago Djokovic’s serve was a major problem for him, it was littered with double faults and was the weak part of his game. What did he do? Hired Becker one of the best servers of all time, and look at his serve now.

    As for Djoko on grass, what do the stats look like pre and post Boris being on board? Post Boris he is 100% on grass, so unless Murray changes something he’s going to struggle at Wimbledon again.

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    Back with Lendl again. Good news

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    That is good news. Let's hope for quick dividends.

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    Del Potro just won in four sets over Wawrinka. Good on him. Had a hard time with injuries

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    Djoks away old boy.

    Out in four, beaten by Querry

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    Has Djokovic been scared by the extra drug testing at Wimbedon? He certainly didn't look right today.

    Murray is a shoo in to win it now, he said tempting fate.

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    Andy one set away from being the first man to ever win the Olympic singles gold twice.

    One defeat in his last 29 matches, been in every slam final and also the Olympic final this season.

    Best player in the world just now?

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    Gold again for Andy.

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