Just out of curiosity for the people saying he wasn't the greatest boxer,who do you think was the greatest?
RIP. What can you say about Muhammad Ali? A legend and definitely the sport's greatest orator, "Floats lie a butterfly stings like a bee, the hands can't hit what the eyes can't see." Ali might not have been the greatest ever boxer (who decides these things) but he fought in some of it's greatest bouts Ali/Frazier and Ali/Foreman.
They don't make them like that any more.
Just out of curiosity for the people saying he wasn't the greatest boxer,who do you think was the greatest?
Rocky Marciano
Fights 49
Wins 49
KOs 43 (87%)
Doesnt get much better than that.A f@cking machine
Ali had some great fights. That will never be taken away from him.
What exactly constitutes being 'the greatest'?
In Alis case. Telling people he is
IMO Ali was better than him because he was the best heavyweight in the best heavyweight era.Originally Posted by Pacman1903
I would accept that he wasn't the greatest ever boxer but he was certainly the best heavyweight.
Tyson would have killed him in the ring. At his peak, Tyson would have killed anyone. Ali fought hard to win fights, especially early on but by 20 years old, Tyson had already won the 3 titles by 19 KOs in a phukin row and 12 of those were in the first round !
If the discussion is - who is better at winning a fight in a ring?...Tyson hit you once in the phukin head and you woke up the next day. Is the simple answer to that.
Originally Posted by Barnared
Were they bums?
Joe frazier wouldve taken Tysons shots i'll bet and Ali.
Marciano was a great fighter but in no way was he the best ever. Which top boxer did he beat when they were in their prime? Have you ever watched him fight rather than look at his record? Marciano was smart, fighters in that era typically fought huge numbers of fights whereas he didn't fight that often and retired young.Originally Posted by Pacman1903
An unbeaten record doesn't mean that much - Joe Calzaghe retired undefeated, does that mean he was better than Sugar Ray Robinson who lost 19 fights?
Im not just looking at his records.
He was also a tank of a man that could take a good bit of punishment.
You say he was up against nobodies. He beat all the best there was more than once. Including Joe Louis who is also arguably the best ever according to some people.
The other thing about him was took up boxing late when he was in the army as he actually wanted to play baseball his whole life but never made the grade. He never actually trained as a boxer hence why he had his unique game plans where he constantly used his massive punch to leave his oponents f@cked and unable to use their arms after he punched the f@ck out of their arms
I may be wrong but im he only won on split decision once the closest he ever came to losing
Its all about opinions though. Thats what makes the world turn