OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Andy_Faber]

As the (one of the) finance guy it falls to me to provide the autumn statement on this thread. Well done one and all for entering into the discussion in a better spirit than most online forums, especially facebook and the BBC News website, and for taking the high ground when 'the opposition' talk only about handrails. I commend this thread to the House.

[SlimyLimey]

A lot of Americans would gladly send you Donald Trump....................... Any takers?

[Manofpride]

Yep!! Nige and Don could make our Britain Great again!!

[swaledale]

Yep!! Nige and Don could make our Britain Great again!!

If anyone is under any illusion that Farage is anything other than a self serving, deluded narcissist, then there truly is no hope!!

[ramspride]

If anyone is under any illusion that Farage is anything other than a self serving, deluded narcissist, then there truly is no hope!!

You mean like Cameron, Blair and a lot of other MPs.

[swaledale]

You mean like Cameron, Blair and a lot of other MPs.

Easy to criticise politicians and in many cases its deserved, but many if not the majority work to represent their consituents and run the country, and at least the two you mentioned did actually do things, rather than swan around being a pain in the arse and not actually aceving anything! Don't say Farage achieved Brexit, he didn't, he attached himself to a groundswell of dissatisfaction and used it entirely for his own ends, where is his grand plan for post brexit? Nowhere, he'd rather be brown nosing the odious Trump and basking in reflected glory!

IF people don't like the politicians, maybe they ought to spend their own precious time helping to organise things and maybe stand themselves either at local or national level?

[Andy_Faber]

Easy to criticise politicians and in many cases its deserved, but many if not the majority work to represent their consituents and run the country, and at least the two you mentioned did actually do things, rather than swan around being a pain in the arse and not actually aceving anything! Don't say Farage achieved Brexit, he didn't, he attached himself to a groundswell of dissatisfaction and used it entirely for his own ends, where is his grand plan for post brexit? Nowhere, he'd rather be brown nosing the odious Trump and basking in reflected glory!

IF people don't like the politicians, maybe they ought to spend their own precious time helping to organise things and maybe stand themselves either at local or national level?

Like him or loathe him, Farage set out to achieve one massive goal many years ago, and he's achieved it. IMO he managed to do the opposite of what you say, he managed to attach a groundswell of dissatisfaction to his cause, to meet the ends he sought. Such mobilisation of the populace is what all politicians seek, he's just better at it than most.

[ramAnag]

Remember how all the Brexiteers screamed 'foul' when Obama suggested that Brexit might not be the best way forward for the UK.
'How dare this foreign President tell us what to do...just who does he think he is?' they cried. How come the same people now applaud the loathsome Trump trying to impose Farage as the new US ambassador? Hypocrisy anyone?

[mistaram]

ramAnag. Totally irrelevant there is no vacancy bet your hands are aching clutching all those straws 😄😄

[swaledale]

Like him or loathe him, Farage set out to achieve one massive goal many years ago, and he's achieved it. IMO he managed to do the opposite of what you say, he managed to attach a groundswell of dissatisfaction to his cause, to meet the ends he sought. Such mobilisation of the populace is what all politicians seek, he's just better at it than most.

But thats just it, he didn't, he attracted the votes of a few disaffected people (you will say there are a couple of million but in truth less than 2% of the population) but they weren't about his cause they were about their own issues, which he didn't give a stuff about and then because and only because of those in the Tory party who live in the past were as per usual giving Cameron grief, Cameron took a massive gamble, Farage's so called success or achievement is down solely to the misjudgement of a section of the Tory party, the referendum was not a result of Farage's activities. He didn't and hasn't built a sustainable political party as is all too obvious and he hasn't built a consensus of the population he hasn't even any coherent policies.

Mind you millions of germans thought Hitler had the answer to their problems so one can't be surprised I suppose!