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Thread: OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    I would've thought you'd have found out before you joined in.
    Education cuts?
    Nope. That would have been political and therefore not been allowed.

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    Personally Ramanag, I'm surprised it wasn't reported on more.
    The BBC are officially the EU's mouth piece in this country.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7640756.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Personally Ramanag, I'm surprised it wasn't reported on more.
    The BBC are officially the EU's mouth piece in this country.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7640756.html
    I'm not surprised, it's a place where good common sense prevails as is the nation's capital which totally rejected Brexit. All major political parties at Westminster all rejected Brexit as do the contributors to the nation's major powerhouse so where is the energy, motivation and intelligence to ensure a successful Brexit. Not much to look forward to is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBasie View Post
    I'm not surprised, it's a place where good common sense prevails as is the nation's capital which totally rejected Brexit. All major political parties at Westminster all rejected Brexit as do the contributors to the nation's major powerhouse so where is the energy, motivation and intelligence to ensure a successful Brexit. Not much to look forward to is there?
    You been to London lately Basie?

    It's a mish mash of 80% poverty and 20% milking it.
    Considering only 40 - 45 % of it's population is white British, it's a hot bed of slave labour yet better than what is the norm.
    Also, a nation vote is a nation vote. Or are you saying that only the privileged and migrant ruled cities have the say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    You been to London lately Basie?

    It's a mish mash of 80% poverty and 20% milking it.
    Considering only 40 - 45 % of it's population is white British, it's a hot bed of slave labour yet better than what is the norm.
    Also, a nation vote is a nation vote. Or are you saying that only the privileged and migrant ruled cities have the say?
    I did live there for a quite a while, and despite all it's faults I did enjoy it. It is also a magnet for the talented who totally rejected Brexit. I just don't see where you are going to get the creativity and intelligence to ensure a successful Brexit. Surely not your bog standard IKIP voter and then who have you got apart from yourself and like minded people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBasie View Post
    I did live there for a quite a while, and despite all it's faults I did enjoy it. It is also a magnet for the talented who totally rejected Brexit. I just don't see where you are going to get the creativity and intelligence to ensure a successful Brexit. Surely not your bog standard IKIP voter and then who have you got apart from yourself and like minded people.
    We've already ascertained that you are a pacifistic joke.

    Let me put this another way. After WW2, Germany was broke, busted, crushed.

    What did we do? We wiped their debts and allowed them to build anew. As a result Germany now runs Europe as it's most powerful economic power.
    The EU is its way of controlling europe. The manipulation of its peoples has been going on for decades.
    So where are we at?

    By mass migration and economic manipulation, is a situation of loss of identity and self determination.
    Blair and his labourites opened the flood gates, as has Merkel in Germany.
    London is now as close to Islamabad/Krakow/Bucharest as you can get.
    Our capitol, is no longer British. Not that I care, I hate the place and detested going there every month.

    Ultimately you have to ask yourself why?
    Make your own conclusions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    We've already ascertained that you are a pacifistic joke.

    Let me put this another way. After WW2, Germany was broke, busted, crushed.

    What did we do? We wiped their debts and allowed them to build anew. As a result Germany now runs Europe as it's most powerful economic power.
    The EU is its way of controlling europe. The manipulation of its peoples has been going on for decades.
    So where are we at?

    By mass migration and economic manipulation, is a situation of loss of identity and self determination.
    Blair and his labourites opened the flood gates, as has Merkel in Germany.
    London is now as close to Islamabad/Krakow/Bucharest as you can get.
    Our capitol, is no longer British. Not that I care, I hate the place and detested going there every month.

    Ultimately you have to ask yourself why?
    Make your own conclusions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_Prize
    Britain is no longer British. The Irish got out and now the Welsh and Scottish want the same. You don't like the nation's powerhouse and the politicians who have to deliver Brexit against their will and better judgement. I bet you don't even like Geordies, Brummies and the Scouse. Which brings us to the point, who do you like ? It's definitely not foreigners who you also hate and only exist to be bossed over by a fictitious group of[people that don't exist any more only in name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    'People whingeing', Andy or over 100,000 engaged in apparently entirely peaceful protest about an impending likely and undemocratic catastrophe? I'd have thought today's demonstration in London would have been of major significance. Tbf the BBC eventually gave it about two minutes by 18.30 (US time) this evening. In comparison Britain was 'under attack' a couple of days ago and Trump had been in urgent contact with Mrs. May. Not belittling that incident for those who were killed or injured at all, but a crazy crim armed with an SUV and a knife hardly constitutes a nation under attack. Strange slants that gets put on news these days...bet it would have been all over the TV had the protest turned nasty.
    general consensus, plus the eyewitness account of my friend Mouse who was there, suggests 25,000, many of which in his opinion were (like him) the 'hard core' of protestors who will march for anything. Leave the exaggeration to Swale! And the attendance is irrelevant anyway, be it a thousand or a million, IMO they are still whingeing, IYO they aren't.

    I do think describing the perp of the London incident as 'a crazy crim' IS belitting the incident by the way....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    general consensus, plus the eyewitness account of my friend Mouse who was there, suggests 25,000, many of which in his opinion were (like him) the 'hard core' of protestors who will march for anything. Leave the exaggeration to Swale! And the attendance is irrelevant anyway, be it a thousand or a million, IMO they are still whingeing, IYO they aren't.

    I do think describing the perp of the London incident as 'a crazy crim' IS belitting the incident by the way....
    All fair points. My only issue was that, viewing from afar it was interesting to get that perspective. Your eyewitness is obviously a good source but the 'Britain under Attack' headline over here...with Trump ready to gallop to the rescue, did seem more than a little OTT. I know it was enormously important for the people involved and I'm really not belittling that aspect at all, but the person involved was, as I understand it, a home grown criminal in his fifties who was born in Kent with the name Adrian Elms. A little like the person who murdered Jo Cox this appears to be an attack by a somewhat crazed individual with God knows what as motivation. Thankfully it seems to have been a very far cry from the attacks on London twelve years ago or the more recent atrocities in Brussels, Paris and Berlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    All fair points. My only issue was that, viewing from afar it was interesting to get that perspective. Your eyewitness is obviously a good source but the 'Britain under Attack' headline over here...with Trump ready to gallop to the rescue, did seem more than a little OTT. I know it was enormously important for the people involved and I'm really not belittling that aspect at all, but the person involved was, as I understand it, a home grown criminal in his fifties who was born in Kent with the name Adrian Elms. A little like the person who murdered Jo Cox this appears to be an attack by a somewhat crazed individual with God knows what as motivation. Thankfully it seems to have been a very far cry from the attacks on London twelve years ago or the more recent atrocities in Brussels, Paris and Berlin.
    You're right, they are the same, extreme individuals killing in the name of a twisted ideology and I excuse neither. But are you old enough to remember the days of the IRA bombings? There was no doubt then, in anyone's mind as far as I can recall, that (mainland) Britain was under attack.

    Pretty sickening too to see/hear the usual apologists creeping out of the woodwork on TV and radio yesterday, led as usual by Baroness Warsi

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