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  1. #5181
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    Not ‘anti investment’ at all, Angry...all for investment, in areas such as health, education, farming (including rewilding), road networks and surfaces, sewerage, affordable housing and public transport. Just asking if HS2 justifies the prioritisation it has received.

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    I agree rA, can't help but feel that there a way better uses for that money in improving our rail infrastructure and rollingstock. I am a great believer in public transport and would love to see those personal transport pods known as cars sidelined in favour of better train/tram/bus networks.

    But ever since Beeching in the 60s more and more people are being taken out of rail network access, particularly in rural areas. Spend the money on restoring the greater network and give access to more users, not to an elite city to city traveller.

    It will be interesting to see if HS2 actually spreads jobs and opens up the North and Midlands to economic revival as suggested. But I suspect that the shorter journey times will simply lead to people commuting to London from ever further away.

    Furthermore, the incidence of remote and home working continues to rise and, it may come as a shock to government, there are things called laptops, mobile phones, videotech and so on which both mean you "don't need to be there to do it" and "you can work on the train".

    It just makes no sense to me. Channel the investment better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Whilst on about white elephants. There has been non bigger than that by the labour government scrapping the TSR-2 in 1965. It was light years ahead of anything on the planet and could have made us a fortune. But Labour being labour scrapped it, leaving the door open for the yanks. All that money wasted on development.
    Totally agree about TSR-2

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    IMO on balance it doesn’t but that’s no my issue, which is that from minute 1 it has been a gravy train for big business in the business areas concerned, I’ve sat in offices in the Birmingham area where people were wandering round looking for something to do whilst on an hourly rate being invoiced through the corporations that recruited them to gov.uk so intimately you and I

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Not ‘anti investment’ at all, Angry...all for investment, in areas such as health, education, farming (including rewilding), road networks and surfaces, sewerage, affordable housing and public transport. Just asking if HS2 justifies the prioritisation it has received.
    Rewilding.. We have too many trees as it is Build a car park, that's what we do down sarf.

    I know very little about HS2, so you lot could be right. One thing I know for sure is that it is not all about 10 mins off a journey time. Of the options you have quoted above, I would go for the tangible ones. Roads, public transport.
    I quite like the fact that UKPLC is investing in big ticket engineering projects. Don't get me started on the 3rd runway at LHR which is absolutely crucial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryRam View Post
    Don't get me started on the 3rd runway at LHR which is absolutely crucial.
    Hmmm, sounds like someone has a high value CPO on his house plus extra compensation if the new runway happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Hmmm, sounds like someone has a high value CPO on his house plus extra compensation if the new runway happens!
    Who Me ????

    Might be right through my office though

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