OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Geoff Parkstone]

Then of course they need to buy the land, buildings etc!

[ramAnag]

They can **** off it they want to keep pound

Perhaps we should be more concerned with the fact that, along with losing his working majority and every Commons vote since he usurped power, our esteemed PM is now on target to lose one quarter of the UK too!

What a guy...won’t even publish the proposed economic impact of his ‘deal’.

One would imagine that if the Scots eventually leave the UK but rejoin the EU then they’ll eventually use the Euro but in the grand scheme of what is currently happening...so what?

Show us the evidence the impact of Brexit is likely to have in an objective and honest way and let the people decide.

THEN...let the Scots decide their own fate...if I were Scottish then I’d want to distance myself as far as possible from the current dishonest Westminster shambles too.

[MadAmster]

Then of course they need to buy the land, buildings etc!

What land? What buildings?

When will all the nuclear subs and missiles get moved from Scotland to.... where? The Thames Estuary?

[Geoff Parkstone]

The country MA, it belongs to the UK under the Act of Union, so the Scots cannot simply annex it 😊😊🇬🇧

[MadAmster]

Disagree GP. The Union is supposed to be a union of 4 equal partners yet all that ever happens is what the English MPs want.........

[Geoff Parkstone]

Are you a secret jock?

[MadAmster]

Are you a secret jock?

No, I'm a disc j...

[swaledale]

We already have a better deal in the Eu than most other EU Members.

The UK enjoys full membership of the single market and the customs union as well as opt-outs from the euro, the borderless Schengen Zone and home affairs policy, and a £4.9bn budget rebate. It received – and then rightly reversed – an exemption from the Social Chapter, which guaranteed workers a minimum of 28 days’ paid holiday per year, maternity and paternity leave and equal rights for part-time employees.

The irony of the Brexiteers demanding “flexibility” from Brussels during the Brexit negotiations is that the EU so often showed it before. No member state has ever been granted a better deal – and no state ever will be. Any British prime minister who negotiated such an agreement today would be lauded as a supreme dealmaker

True, the EU did not grant the UK greater control of free movement (though its economic and social benefits are plain). But Cameron was awarded notable concessions during his renegotiation of the UK’s membership. They included an official exemption from “ever closer union”, a four-year ban on in-work benefits for EU migrants (activable for seven years) and greater safeguards for the City of London.

In the case of free movement, the UK already has the flexibility to impose greater control. Though EU citizens are initially permitted to live in any member state, after three months they must prove that they are working (employed or self-employed), a registered student or have “sufficient resources” (savings or a pension) to support themselves and not be “a burden on the benefits system”. Far from being unconditional, then, the right to free movement is highly qualified.

Johnson’s proposed deal, will be profoundly worse than the deal the UK already has.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I'm afraid I have to agree with that analysis Swale. We should have left well alone 4 years ago

[ramAnag]

I'm afraid I have to agree with that analysis Swale. We should have left well alone 4 years ago

Why the reluctance...why are you ‘afraid to have to agree’ with Swale’s analysis?
Set all the taunting, personalising and pontificating aside and that analysis represents the nub of the argument.
You probably have as clear an understanding of the economics of the situation as anyone on here, but still you sit on the fence until, when push comes to shove, you just about admit to favouring the Remain side.
Isn’t the fact of the matter though...whichever Brexit deal we end up with we will be worse off than we are with the agreement we already have?