I am taking a trip abroad next week which involves five flights. The check-in process will take me two and a half hours longer than it did in 2000 (my observation) and the flights will cost me 4% more (fact, I'll find where I saw that and post it when I find it). And you can be sure that waste of time and money wasn't due to anything Seikhs or buddists did.
I have a musician friend who lived, and made a good living, playing psychobilly to manic audiences in Germany. He lived in a sleepy town called Neiderau. He, his wife and daughters recently moved back to Oxford because in the last year the streets of his part of town have become a virtual no-go zone for anyone wearing a skirt or a short-sleeved blouse, and damned dangerous after dark. This started when the town was allocated some immigrants - not radicals, just people who (my friend says) clearly have an ethos which is intolerant of the ways of others, and (an absolute no-no for me) consider females to be commodities
I do a lot of recruitment interviewing where I work, and I've been asked by my HR not to ask candidates (many of whom, in my profession, are of 'subcontinent' origin) about what their interests are out of work, because a Muslim candidate has complained that those of other faiths are mentioning 'going out for drinks with mates' to differentiate themselves from abstaining Muslims
These aren't substantiation, just anecdotes, and I'm no racist....
[QUOTE=Trickytreesreds;38242077]Be careful there Angry lad. The current younger people are at this time running around the streets, chasing imaginary Pokemon, whilst blaming our generation for ruining their future.
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Yeah I know.. I am out with them now.. Trick buggers those Pokemon thingys
Hold on Angry! You were the one labelling remain as the "safe" option, you can't argue it both ways! Well you can but its a contradiction and rather undermines the case your making.
I rather thought this country had been built on an empire and exploiting resources and people in other countries but maybe i misread history!
IMO theres a difference between a bold decision, that is one taken with a rational view of the facts and consequences and a risky one, where actually the consequences arent fully understood, even by the most intelligent of people, in fact where in the Brexit campaign were those positive effects set out beyond meaningless statements about "taking our country" back?
You also ignore the economic benefits we have had over the past 40 years whilst being in the EU, or did I miss the bit where membership brought us to economic ruin?
How are you so sure that our ability to VETO the bits of the Eu we didn't like is going to be diminished? Thats an assumption not a fact, it may happen, though it would be by the agreement of the democratically elected UK government not an edict of the EU.
I am sorry Andy but that is absolute *******s - Muslims intolerance of other cultures FFS! Do you even know any Muslims? The vast majority are completely tolerant of other cultures and the ones i know are more than happy to have a drink.
Of course the average white Uk person is completely tolerant of other cultures and makes every effort to adapt when abroad dont they?
Funny I caught a flight two weeks ago through heathrow, got through check in and at the gate in under an hour, it rarely takes me more than 90 mins and thats usually because of security checks - getting back in is a different matter as even using fast track and EU citizens I'm often there for over 2 hours!
And don't be silly and pull the 'Do you even know any Muslims' trick. I know loads and am friends with a couple. I also know loads of football fans who aren't psychopaths but I know they're out there, and I know loads of blokes in their fifties who aren't *****philes, but again I know they're out there - and agreeing with your last point, I know of loads of UK tourists who respect the ways of where they are, but I know there are British arseholes abroad.
The veto is all right in theory, but in practise, how often is it used? You have 28 countries and not everyone will agree all the time. So I imagine that on certain issues, pressure is brought to bear on dissenters to toe the line and on occasions where this doesn't work, part of the eu go in a different direction. For example, we didn't want the Euro but it went ahead anyway and we are outside that clique of 19 countries, likewise with the shenken scrapping of border controls.
The eu has become too big, to work efficiently. 8 or 9 countries could get round a table and quickly get a consensus of opinion. How long does it take for 28,and increasing, countries of massively different social and economic characteristics to do the same?
That Sir is a massive crux of it.
The original 9 were of similar levels of economic parity and political understanding.
Since then, the EU has dragged the dregs of Europe in, which to be fair to them. Hasn't done them as big a favour as they thought.
Greece/Spain/Portugal thought they'd hit the jack pot. Look at them now.
Crippling debts, massive youth unemployment.
The old Bloc countries are currently going through the same pattern. It will all end in tears again. That's if they don't up sticks and head West/North anyway.