OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Andy_Faber]

Why...’over to me’? Andy’s daft suggestion...nowt to do with me.
My suggestion was entirely different, but feel free to challenge that...if you can.

P.S. MoP...You suggest ‘Remainers’ hope Brexit won’t be a success. Speaking personally you couldn’t be more wrong. As a ‘Remainer’ of course I hope it won’t happen...but if it does I, of course, want it to be a success...I simply think all the evidence suggests otherwise.

I'm lost on that one RA, which daft suggestion? I know I am prolific but not recently surely. I still owe you that PM on BBC obsession with diversity, more daftness maybe.

[ramAnag]

I'm lost on that one RA, which daft suggestion? I know I am prolific but not recently surely. I still owe you that PM on BBC obsession with diversity, more daftness maybe.

Ram59 referred to your three potential second referendum questions as if they were mine.
i know they were offered in my defence but they were your suggestion followed by his voting scenario...for once I am blameless.

[Manofpride]

Ram59 referred to your three potential second referendum questions as if they were mine.
i know they were offered in my defence but they were your suggestion followed by his voting scenario...for once I am blameless.

If we started a new Brexit vote on this footy board, leave or stay what do you think the outcome would be! and do you think many leavers would be changing their minds to stay in the EU.

[ramAnag]

If we started a new Brexit vote on this footy board, leave or stay what do you think the outcome would be! and do you think many leavers would be changing their minds to stay in the EU.

I think you’d probably win.
The majority don’t seem to care...MA can’t vote, which essentially leaves Swale and I v you and Ram59 leaving the decisive votes to Andy and Parky, once they’ve untangled the mass of contradictions that surround their comments and climbed off that fence they like to sit on.
Actually Andy has admitted recently that he’d still vote ‘Remain’ which might mean you have to rely on the likes of TTR and Gunteryy...bet that makes you feel good.

Fortunately I don’t think this forum is indicative of anything other than the fact that most people are utterly fed up with Brexit.

Unfortunately, it’s probably the most important decision of the last fifty years and needs resolving.

[Andy_Faber]

I think you’d probably win.
The majority don’t seem to care...MA can’t vote, which essentially leaves Swale and I v you and Ram59 leaving the decisive votes to Andy and Parky, once they’ve untangled the mass of contradictions that surround their comments and climbed off that fence they like to sit on.
Actually Andy has admitted recently that he’d still vote ‘Remain’ which might mean you have to rely on the likes of TTR and Gunteryy...bet that makes you feel good.

Fortunately I don’t think this forum is indicative of anything other than the fact that most people are utterly fed up with Brexit.

Unfortunately, it’s probably the most important decision of the last fifty years and needs resolving.

To be clear I would still vote remain if the same questions were asked, I would reconsider if different ones were asked. But as things stand, I am 100% committed to Brexit because that's what the UK decided, whatever the 'Its Not fair!!!!' posse might argue in disagreement. I see absolutely no contradiction in that, I have voted on the losing side on many many things throughout my life, but have always respected the majority vote. I also don't see what's contradictory in considering voting for Lib Dem in the hope it would act as a moderating force to the two extremist parties, when the Lib Dems are pushing for a second vote - there ain't gonna be one so the issue is irrelevant

[Geoff Parkstone]

Probably the most important decision since the one to declare war on Germany, and you only have to watch the Churchill film to appreciate that that was a bodge up of a vote that hardly had great parliamentary support and split parties. We cant do anything easily can we

[Andy_Faber]

Probably the most important decision since the one to declare war on Germany, and you only have to watch the Churchill film to appreciate that that was a bodge up of a vote that hardly had great parliamentary support and split parties. We cant do anything easily can we

I now think we'll leave with 'no deal'. Maybe we should have had Noel Edmonds and his man on the phone involved in all this

I think in one area that will hit EU MUCH harder than UK, and that's the Irish border. IMO UK will decline to have a physical border and call EU's bluff on it

[Ram59]

I now think we'll leave with 'no deal'. Maybe we should have had Noel Edmonds and his man on the phone involved in all this

I think in one area that will hit EU MUCH harder than UK, and that's the Irish border. IMO UK will decline to have a physical border and call EU's bluff on it

That's an interesting proposition that I hadn't thought of. Would the eu then force the republic into having a hard border, against its wishes?

[Andy_Faber]

IMO that would be a massive win for uk, effectively out-Shenghening them

[MadAmster]

That's an interesting proposition that I hadn't thought of. Would the eu then force the republic into having a hard border, against its wishes?

If Mayhem's little speech this afternoon is true then the EU wants Northern Ireland, at the very least, and would prefer the entire UK, to remain part of some form of Customs Union. I think they also want to keep the UK in the Single Market via the EEA route. Mayhem has blasted both ideas straight out of the water.

The Dutch (currently the EU's single largest net payer) and the German industrialists and politicians must be bricking it.

They are the only 2 able to pay substantially more to account for their losing the UK funding. That is a net "loss" to the EU of around £180M a week.