Your usual right wing bolloxs Please tell me how Labour governed for 13yrs They did that after 80a mess left by Thatcher , remember her the one who stop you earning your living As an ex miner What made you vote Labour you told us you've voted for all the parties Talking of hair brained ideas suppose your great fan of Universal credit , bedroom tax ,forcing dismissed employees to pay £1,000 to pay for a tribunal You want to spend less time with you head in the Daily Mail pal But anybody worships scum like Johnson ,Farage and inhuman people Duncan- Smith hounding the sick disabled and poor It says a lot more about you than it does Corbyn
‘Book boy’...what’s that meant to mean? Is that the best you’ve got? Is it even an insult?
For your information...yes I spent thirty years in teaching, yes I’ve got a degree, but I’ve also worked - amongst other things - in farming (quite mucky that!), for a record company, in an industrial laundry (burnt fingers and hands a daily occupational hazard), in an engineering factory (hands in a vat of Swarfega at the end of each day), in a number of mills in the North West, as a porter and behind a bar.
So please don’t think you’ve got the monopoly on those ‘working class roots’ as you clamber into that brand new and oh so German BMW you’ve told us all about...and while we’re at it...maybe you could lay off the Johnson tactic of criticising other people’s policies and voting intentions and just share/explain your own.
EH?
There you go again, with the strop. You start the insults, it comes back and the teddies out the pram again.
You was bullied at university wasn't you? Did the rich boys use your bottom as a crumpet toaster?
It would explain a lot.
My monopoly as you call it, of working class roots. Don't treally get any deeper than 2 up 2 down, terrace house living and coal mining.
Anything I have in life, I worked hard for, very hard.
This socialst utopia you embrace is what has the lower end of can't be bothered drooling.
They really do believe they are getting something for free!!!
You as I said may not be rich, but expect to be poorer should Corbyns army get in. You have been targetted.
I have explained my position many times before. You are like Soubry, you just don't listen.
I always vote for what I feel is right for me at any particular time. I am not a monkey in a rosette voter.
You see you are doing what Corbyn wants you to do. He is blinding everyone with a thunderflash of magical policies.
Yet the elephant in the room is still Brexit.
He won't give an answer on his position. Yet all Labour have come up with, is remain/versus official remain.
Yntil those 17.4 m voters are satisfied with who acts on that. People like him and Swinson are toast.
So by blocking/delaying Brexit. You have all effectively shot yourself in the arse over your stubbornnesss.
My feelings on the NHS/tax/housing/ jobs have taken second place to that.
Conversely, delivering Brexit would have already impacted on those things for the better.
You dig your heels in kid. Maybe I'll get my no deal Brexit afterall.
I don't share TTRs view that teachers haven't come from a working class background, I know a lot of teachers from challenging backgrounds who genuinely want to make a positive difference.
The problem with the labour policies, is that they need funding. There is nothing in that manifesto, that gives any hope to UK companies, they will be flattened. I'm not going to get into the Fiscal side to heavily, but I can 100% assure you, from an HR perspective, that their policies will result in lower salaries, removal of any enhanced benefits (sick pay, redundancy pay, holiday, income protection, pension contributions... Etc) and ultimately redundancies. In no uncertain terms, they will **** us up. How can you promise all these things that would come from a prosperous economy, whilst cutting the nose off every UK company by reducing their productivity by 20% plus and increasing their taxes, and holding them to ransom every 5 minutes with industrial action?
And let's not keep forgetting their stupid promise to close the gender pay gap or fine companies in 10 years. To put that in context for you, that means that the dinner ladies would get paid a similar salary to the male teachers. Or Mel Morris would need a gender change.
I can live with the Lib Dems stopping Brexit and getting high on weed, I can live with Boris Brexit and disappointing wildlife provisions, but I cannot for the life of me see anything positive about Labour. Bye bye job, bye bye home, bye bye future pension.
Jeez...you forgot living in a cardboard box. ‘Two up, two down!’...you were lucky!
You’re truly delusional Tricky...read back the last hour or so - or any ‘correspondence’ between us - and consider who ‘starts the insults’.
Look at the evidence.
‘Have a strop’...’teddies out of the pram’. What are you talking about? You went off on an ‘up to the elbows in ****/oil/water’ rant before your stroppy ‘Bye’ and your ‘book boy’ jibe.
All I’ve done is laugh at you and point out that you’re not alone in getting your hands dirty.
‘Bullied at University?’ Where do you dream these things up from?
‘Socialist Utopia?’...when have I ever suggested that?
Still I suppose hidden in there somewhere is some suggestion of what you want from this election...a No-Deal Brexit...so now we know.
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For the Potter fans here, Corbyn's employment plans are like the dementors. They will suck all the life out of business, wreck growth strategies and harm bottom lines and thus employment. For every person getting paid the same to work a 4 day week there will be one sat at home redundant. Automation is beginning to strip jobs away, this will do more damage to the job market.
At a time when the global economy is fragile and volatile at the same time, racked by US and Chinese trade wars and (potentially) with the UK economy tossed into Brexit by a Corbyn government (Brexit isn't the unique domain of the tories) its plain madness.
These strategies might be acceptable in a vibrant healthy UK economy, but now? Ludicrous, idealistic claptrap which will damage any hope of economic revival: and all for what?
You’re better ‘qualified’ at the ‘costing’ business than me GP and I’m not going to argue with your opinion that the Labour manifesto contains aspects of idealistic unaffordability. I’d like to think it’s radical and ‘visionary’ but I’m honestly not sure how much of it is affordable.
Having said that...while you’re very critical of Labour (or the current leadership at least), you appear to be equally (and justifiably imo) hostile to Johnson and the new right wing dominated Tory Party...so, just out of interest, what do you suggest we do with our ballot papers on Election Day?
Throw them away, or a protest vote. The policies of both main parties are unacceptable extremes, the LibDems are pointless yet may end up holding a balance of power again thanks to at least having a policy on brexit. Green is a protest only and not likely to be influential in any way. It is a shame that one of the most important general elections in decades does not have a credible candidate.
I think history will look back on the election as a huge missed opportunity for Labour, who show themselves as indecisive (Brexit) idealistic and unrealistic (too much too soon) self destructive (toward small business and entrepreneurs in the main) and retro. With decent centre left leadership and policies, a decisive Brexit strategy and a sense of realism, they could have romped home in the election. As it is, we'll we shall see.
I just hope the outcome is a destruction of the polarisation around the extremes and Creaton of a centrist bloc. But don't hold out much of that hope