OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[Trickytreesreds]

Not really. There's a fine line between socialism and communism.
After all, Hitlers crew started out under the socialist pact.
Communism and socialism started off with the same roots, the exploitation of workers.
It appears that even our own politicians have no idea of socialism means, and who its champions are.
Take Dianne here, who thinks Mao was a man to be admired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA

So think again when spouting the socialist crap. Exactly who has ever got rich or had a free life under socialism? Don't quote me the text book here, we all know that is never carried out. It wasn't 5 minutes ago that Corbyn was spouting Venezuela as a shining light of socialism.
On paper it looks great, but invariably it leads to economic disaster.

Funny how the EU promotes socialism as it's driving force, but lets be honest. Really?


https://71republic.com/2018/08/13/eu...mmunist-roots/

So it's ok for your right wing Tories to go cap in hand to Communist China for trade is it ie Teresa May[/QUOTE]

trading and trying to replicate them are 2 different things. Though Abott admires their former leaders. I wonder why that is?
Maybe a leopard doesn't change its spots?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk

[ramAnag]

So it's ok for your right wing Tories to go cap in hand to Communist China for trade is it ie Teresa May

trading and trying to replicate them are 2 different things. Though Abott admires their former leaders. I wonder why that is?
Maybe a leopard doesn't change its spots?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk[/QUOTE]

She’s an easy enough target for you Tricky, I appreciate that. I’m not a fan either

You may wish to consider though that at the last (2017) General Election she increased her majority by around 11,000 to over 35,000 whilst winning a remarkable 75% of the vote.
Must be doing something right then, unless it’s all those ‘commies’ and IRA sympathisers in Hackney North and Stoke Newington.

Just for information and by way of comparison...Johnson’s majority was halved at the same GE and of course your favourite - Mr. Mirage - didn’t stand having failed on seven previous occasions to get elected, but that’s democracy for you.

[mistaram]

trading and trying to replicate them are 2 different things. Though Abott admires their former leaders. I wonder why that is?
Maybe a leopard doesn't change its spots?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk

She’s an easy enough target for you Tricky, I appreciate that. I’m not a fan either

You may wish to consider though that at the last (2017) General Election she increased her majority by around 11,000 to over 35,000 whilst winning a remarkable 75% of the vote.
Must be doing something right then, unless it’s all those ‘commies’ and IRA sympathisers in Hackney North and Stoke Newington.

Just for information and by way of comparison...Johnson’s majority was halved at the same GE and of course your favourite - Mr. Mirage - didn’t stand having failed on seven previous occasions to get elected, but that’s democracy for you. [/QUOTE]

RA you now why Mr Mirage isn't standing this time don't we
1 he's a coward
2 he would have to give his easy MEP salary up where he is due to receive £170,000 severence pay

[mistaram]

So it's ok for your right wing Tories to go cap in hand to Communist China for trade is it ie Teresa May

trading and trying to replicate them are 2 different things. Though Abott admires their former leaders. I wonder why that is?
Maybe a leopard doesn't change its spots?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk[/QUOTE]

"trading and trying to replicating them are two different things " That's about as two faced as you can get . But be any morals where Tories and money are concerned is there

[ramAnag]

In an attempt to put politics back on the political/Brexit thread...is this the ‘Brexit Election’ or not?

That is exactly what it is being called in some quarters while others are suggesting that there are far more important issues than just Brexit at stake.

My opinion, for what it is worth, is that the three main parties are falling over themselves to make promises as regards such ‘far more important issues’ - the NHS, police and education funding, housing etc - but while such ‘promises’ usually prove fairly meaningless they are particularly so in 2019 because no one has a clue what Brexit is going to cost and what the ultimate economic implications are going to be for spending on essential public services.

Judging by the number of deals being done - although of course never by ‘honest Boris’ - it is, most definitely the ‘Brexit Election’ but if, as I suspect, the result is another minority government or ‘hung Parliament’ where the hell do we go from there?

P.S. That is no sort of an argument in favour of ‘just get it done’. Much too important for that.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I think it is and should be all about Brexit and is in effect your 2nd referendum. The impact of Brexit is so pervasive, nothing else matters or can move forward until this is finally put to bed.

It makes me laugh all this electioneering about closing the gender pay gap by 2030, free broadband for all etc. These issues cannot compete against the biggest elephant in the room, but I suppose its what you get from a political party with no Brexit policy worth speaking of.

[macstheman]

What Election's this then???

[ramAnag]

I think it is and should be all about Brexit and is in effect your 2nd referendum. The impact of Brexit is so pervasive, nothing else matters or can move forward until this is finally put to bed.

It makes me laugh all this electioneering about closing the gender pay gap by 2030, free broadband for all etc. These issues cannot compete against the biggest elephant in the room, but I suppose its what you get from a political party with no Brexit policy worth speaking of.

It’s not actually ‘my’ second Referendum is it? Although it may be becoming increasingly unavoidable.
As you know, I’ve got little faith in the current Labour regime although it’s a damned site better than the ERG dominated alternative imo.
One of their more sensible ideas though seems to be a second referendum with the choice between a deal which we all know the contents of vs Remain, so Labour do have some sort of policy which is infinitely better than what happened in 2017 when ‘we’ voted without knowing any of the conditions of leaving the EU.

I do agree with the rest of what you’ve written.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So this election is, in Labour terms, a referendum about having a referendum?

[mistaram]

So this election is, in Labour terms, a referendum about having a referendum?

Geoff your better than that Well at least I hope you are