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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodie80 View Post
    So if you don't support independence you are a despicable person ? It must be terrible living in amongst all these despicable people.

    And it's not the butchers apron, it's the Union flag which is a beautiful thing
    Naw I was referring in particular to I'm alright Jack from Money thief a most particular obnoxious type of Britnat had he lived 300 years ago would have been first in line to sell his country out.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Forget drugs Its selfish @rseholes like yourself Paddy that are the real threat to Scotland's kids. Scotland's shame.
    Wee stuarties turning into the resident roaster

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Naw I was referring in particular to I'm alright Jack from Money thief a most particular obnoxious type of Britnat had he lived 300 years ago would have been first in line to sell his country out.
    Blah blah phuckin blah.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Why do you talk Scotland down?

    I have a great life and have never considered myself to be looking in at anything.
    Why do I talk Scotland down... hmm... It isn't a case of talking anything down, it is simply the truth. When you are 10% of something, and the other 90% don't agree, then you are screwed. Scotland has no voice. Her 56 MP's have no influence over anything and may as well not bother turning up. I have lived in England now for 30 years. The picture painted of the English by some nationalists is small-minded petty jealousy and they all need a good slap, but that is another story... They have little or no animosity towards Scotland or the Scots and many are genuinely bemused that Scotland should ever want to leave - but make no mistake - Scotland is viewed as a benefactor of England's generosity - (not Britain's - although to many here England and Britain are the same...).
    I am sure your life is wonderful. My son also has a wonderful life - he's 17 and in 6th form at school. He pays no rent, has a part-time job earning a few hundred a month, and gets a hundred pocket money as well. He gets his holidays paid for and when away with us gets his meals and trips all paid for. He contributes nothing to the household and is permanently subsidised. He will probably be gone in a year or two. We would rather he stayed but understand why he will wish to leave - although we do expect to subsidise him even after he has gone...
    I love Scotland - am forever telling everyone how wonderful (most of) it is, and I would not wish my compatriots to suffer any kind of financial hardship - but I would be willing to take a bit of a hit to exchange Scotland's current perceived dependency for some pride.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    Why do I talk Scotland down... hmm... It isn't a case of talking anything down, it is simply the truth. When you are 10% of something, and the other 90% don't agree, then you are screwed. Scotland has no voice. Her 56 MP's have no influence over anything and may as well not bother turning up. I have lived in England now for 30 years. The picture painted of the English by some nationalists is small-minded petty jealousy and they all need a good slap, but that is another story... They have little or no animosity towards Scotland or the Scots and many are genuinely bemused that Scotland should ever want to leave - but make no mistake - Scotland is viewed as a benefactor of England's generosity - (not Britain's - although to many here England and Britain are the same...).
    I am sure your life is wonderful. My son also has a wonderful life - he's 17 and in 6th form at school. He pays no rent, has a part-time job earning a few hundred a month, and gets a hundred pocket money as well. He gets his holidays paid for and when away with us gets his meals and trips all paid for. He contributes nothing to the household and is permanently subsidised. He will probably be gone in a year or two. We would rather he stayed but understand why he will wish to leave - although we do expect to subsidise him even after he has gone...
    I love Scotland - am forever telling everyone how wonderful (most of) it is, and I would not wish my compatriots to suffer any kind of financial hardship - but I would be willing to take a bit of a hit to exchange Scotland's current perceived dependency for some pride.
    Voting an SNP MP into Westminster is a wasted vote as they have no influence and can't make a difference for Scotland.

    Voting 56 Labour or God forbid 56 Tories MPs, would.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Voting an SNP MP into Westminster is a wasted vote as they have no influence and can't make a difference for Scotland.

    Voting 56 Labour or God forbid 56 Tories MPs, would.
    I would not care to comment on how much influence the Scottish 'branches' of the big two parties have on their greater membership, but I can say with some certainty that anything that is detrimental in any way to England would not fly regardless of which party put it forward...

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Voting an SNP MP into Westminster is a wasted vote as they have no influence and can't make a difference for Scotland.

    Voting 56 Labour or God forbid 56 Tories MPs, would.

    You and your no voting ilk have probably condemned us to 20 years Tory rule, But hey ho no worries to you paddy you'd rather have 100 years Tory rule than us rule ourselves. The SNP have done more for Scotland in the last 8 years than Labour have done in 50 !! Your a disgrace min !

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    I would not care to comment on how much influence the Scottish 'branches' of the big two parties have on their greater membership, but I can say with some certainty that anything that is detrimental in any way to England would not fly regardless of which party put it forward...
    You said the SNP had little influence at Westminster. I merely commented that sending labour or Tories MPs would be ensure Scotland was better represented.

    if labour were in government they couldn't dismiss the views of 56 Scottish MPs, neither could the Tories.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    You and your no voting ilk have probably condemned us to 20 years Tory rule, But hey ho no worries to you paddy you'd rather have 100 years Tory rule than us rule ourselves. The SNP have done more for Scotland in the last 8 years than Labour have done in 50 !! Your a disgrace min !
    Blah blah phuckin blah.

  10. #50
    Scotland will become a normal, fairer, greener, richer independent European country that we're all proud to live and work in. And if that's Blah blah phuckin blah that's good enough for me, I and others are doing this all for you and you're family Paddy you can thank me further down the road.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Scotland will become a normal, fairer, greener, richer independent European country that we're all proud to live and work in. And if that's Blah blah phuckin blah that's good enough for me, I and others are doing this all for you and you're family Paddy you can thank me further down the road.
    Aye,Ye try to help aw these Indoctrined Fool Brittanias oot and Ye get nae thanks for it Stewarty.

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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    You said the SNP had little influence at Westminster. I merely commented that sending labour or Tories MPs would be ensure Scotland was better represented.

    if labour were in government they couldn't dismiss the views of 56 Scottish MPs, neither could the Tories.
    They always have before...

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    Scotland was nearly led into oblivion by the SNP and their fairy story white paper. Thank phuck the people that voted seen right through them. I dread to think what state the country would have become if we had voted yes.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    They always have before...
    No party would dismiss the views of MPs when they are required to help them carry out the governments agenda.

    Thats why the SNP are an irrelevance at Westminster and a wasted vote.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Scotland will become a normal, fairer, greener, richer independent European country that we're all proud to live and work in. And if that's Blah blah phuckin blah that's good enough for me, I and others are doing this all for you and you're family Paddy you can thank me further down the road.
    Blah blah phuckin blah.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Blah blah phuckin blah.
    I'm absolutely overwhelmed by your Political Insight Noah.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by spameater1 View Post
    I'm absolutely overwhelmed by your Political Insight Noah.
    I'll never be with yours

    Dont think anyone will.

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    No party would dismiss the views of MPs when they are required to help them carry out the governments agenda.

    Thats why the SNP are an irrelevance at Westminster and a wasted vote.
    All parties regularly dismiss the views of their MPs unless they are a majority or, at the very least , a significant minority. MPs do as they are told by their party whips. The tories and labour have no interest in Scotland and their party whips therefore have no interest in Scotland therefore the Scots at Westminster will do as they have always done which is to shut up and do as they are told. Scotland has never had a voice and will never have a voice as long as 90% of the population wish it that way.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by JackSnakes View Post
    All parties regularly dismiss the views of their MPs unless they are a majority or, at the very least , a significant minority. MPs do as they are told by their party whips. The tories and labour have no interest in Scotland and their party whips therefore have no interest in Scotland therefore the Scots at Westminster will do as they have always done which is to shut up and do as they are told. Scotland has never had a voice and will never have a voice as long as 90% of the population wish it that way.
    No party in power can ignore a block of 56 MPs.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Paddy is outraged that Scotland won't sit still. Won't shut up or do what its told.
    That outraged it voted in a load of tory MP's, I would not be surprised if stewarty was another of the slugs usernames, same sh1t for brains reasoning

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