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Thread: Rangers Then, Sevco Now, Scotland's Shame Forever....

  1. #21
    Did anyone catch the result of that court case with the boy who was suing Coral bookies for not paying out 250K on the bet he made that Rangers would get relegated back in fit ever year they went t*ts up? A £100 bet was placed on it but they didn't pay out saying they weren't 'relegated' they were 'demoted' along with the old 'different club' chestnut.

    They were saying they are a different club but quite happily advertise the return of the 'old firm' to get the punters betting.

    The ruling was due yesterday but haven't seen anything about it.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by mondo_notion View Post
    Did anyone catch the result of that court case with the boy who was suing Coral bookies for not paying out 250K on the bet he made that Rangers would get relegated back in fit ever year they went t*ts up? A £100 bet was placed on it but they didn't pay out saying they weren't 'relegated' they were 'demoted' along with the old 'different club' chestnut.

    They were saying they are a different club but quite happily advertise the return of the 'old firm' to get the punters betting.

    The ruling was due yesterday but haven't seen anything about it.
    The case only finished yesteday after the evidence was heard. I would imagine that it may be a few weeks before the judgement is given as the court would normally issue it in writing after that sort of timescale.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Gogsred View Post
    The case only finished yesteday after the evidence was heard. I would imagine that it may be a few weeks before the judgement is given as the court would normally issue it in writing after that sort of timescale.
    Cheers, I hope the boy gets his payout. From what I've read Coral knew exactly what the bet was before they accepted it. Be interesting to see which way the whole same/different club spiel goes.

  4. #24
    5 years ago today, the original Rangers went into administration. What a hilarious & shambolic 5 years it has been.

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    Great day that. Had a few celebratory drinks that day.

    I was in Glasgow at a gig the day they got liquidated . Had a few celebratory drinks that day too

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    The biggest problem facing Rangers isnt the so called "lack of investment" or poor managerial choices, its the fans. After what that club has been through you would think the fans would somehow come to their senses and understand they are lucky to even have a football club left, let alone want to finish first, second or win every cup in sight. I have seen a lot of talk from their fans over the last few weeks and while one or two talk some sense, the vast majority are absolutely deluded.

    All football fans want to win leagues and cups, but they are struggling to keep the lights on and yet still expect to win everything. I dont get it. I understand the old Rangers won plenty of trophies, be we all know the reasons behind how they could achieve that and yet even after being exposed, going into administration, being liquidated, taken over by utter clowns and then the glib and shameless one takes over, they still think they should win everything. When will they wake up and realise that this incarnation is morally and financially screwed. They have no money to invest in the squad because King has no money, the money they do get in is used to keep the "big hoose" open and maintained and Celtic have spent years strengthening, with the gap between them and Celtic being on par with Celtic and our ourselves.

    I have said it since Sevco was created, the fans will be the detriment to the club and will eventually bring it down. Their constant need for reassurance that they compete and the demand to invest will eventually send the house of cards tumbling down. They are constantly waiting for some sugar daddy to come along, but maybe soon they will realise that no one cares about investing in Scottish Football and even more so, a wreck of a club like Rangers!

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Stupie82 View Post
    The biggest problem facing Rangers isnt the so called "lack of investment" or poor managerial choices, its the fans. After what that club has been through you would think the fans would somehow come to their senses and understand they are lucky to even have a football club left, let alone want to finish first, second or win every cup in sight. I have seen a lot of talk from their fans over the last few weeks and while one or two talk some sense, the vast majority are absolutely deluded.

    All football fans want to win leagues and cups, but they are struggling to keep the lights on and yet still expect to win everything. I dont get it. I understand the old Rangers won plenty of trophies, be we all know the reasons behind how they could achieve that and yet even after being exposed, going into administration, being liquidated, taken over by utter clowns and then the glib and shameless one takes over, they still think they should win everything. When will they wake up and realise that this incarnation is morally and financially screwed. They have no money to invest in the squad because King has no money, the money they do get in is used to keep the "big hoose" open and maintained and Celtic have spent years strengthening, with the gap between them and Celtic being on par with Celtic and our ourselves.

    I have said it since Sevco was created, the fans will be the detriment to the club and will eventually bring it down. Their constant need for reassurance that they compete and the demand to invest will eventually send the house of cards tumbling down. They are constantly waiting for some sugar daddy to come along, but maybe soon they will realise that no one cares about investing in Scottish Football and even more so, a wreck of a club like Rangers!

    I think the world of ranjiz' end is nigh.....

  8. #28
    Sevco don't seem to be in any hurry to appoint a new manager, which backs up the theory that they are skint.

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    The end is nigh talk has been on the go through their whole existance. Canna see it. They will just get sh@t as they winna attract the players the deluded troglodytes crave, which in turn will turn the deluded troglodytes away

  10. #30
    Unfortunately there will always be some club called Rangers. But I wouldn't be surprised if this version ended up in administration.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacman1903 View Post
    The end is nigh talk has been on the go through their whole existance. Canna see it. They will just get sh@t as they winna attract the players the deluded troglodytes crave, which in turn will turn the deluded troglodytes away
    i stick by my own thoughts that they will end up in admin or worse once again. If what you said above is true, and i think it is, the fans walking away from the club due to lack of success, will in turn speed up the process of their demise.

    If they had the cash they would appoint a decent manager, but they cant afford to pay compensation and any decent manager they could attract, would be deterred by the lack of funds. They HAVE to compete with Celtic, the fans demand it and any manager coming in will know that, but it cant be done on a shoe string budget and a fan base who crumble at the mere sign of falling behind. Rangers have no money, they are in debt and they are years away from ever being a challenge to Celtic. The fans dont have that sort of patience and i can just see it all going to ****. The only way they will avoid that is if someone comes in with big sums of cash, but that likelihood is very slim. They could have bought the cuunts for a quid a few years back, so it aint likely they will come in now. they're ****ed i tell ya!!

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    You could well be right & I really hope you are but most of that is guesswork.

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    A lot of speculation and a lot of biased internet reporting from good honest, non bigoted tims has the zombie club a lot closer to the edge than I think they are. For one thing the corrupt Scottish officialdom and weegia meejia will do everything in their powers to keep the cashcow alive as will all of the chairmen of each and every club. They will get away with bending of the rules, living outwith their means and doing whatever the f*ck they want because no one has the balls to stop them or indeed even want to.

    I live in hope that half the speculation is true but in reality think that they will be way ahead of us next season by throwing money they do not have at the first team for a new manager .... hopefully not ours. They will still be miles behind their bigoted brothers though.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by mondo_notion View Post
    Cheers, I hope the boy gets his payout. From what I've read Coral knew exactly what the bet was before they accepted it. Be interesting to see which way the whole same/different club spiel goes.
    I hope he doesn't get his money. They weren't relegated.

  15. #35
    Did I read somewhere that after the ETB appeal is heard and Hector wins HMRC are going after the recipients of the money?

  16. #36

    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by ohno View Post
    Did I read somewhere that after the ETB appeal is heard and Hector wins HMRC are going after the recipients of the money?
    When the appeal is won the stadium should be ceased and everything sold off to repay tax and all creditors as would happen with any other business.

    Then we should all get a day off every year to celebrate a magnificent day in the history of our country when justice was seen to be done against all odds.

    More chance of us winning the league but you can but dream

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by ohno View Post
    Did I read somewhere that after the ETB appeal is heard and Hector wins HMRC are going after the recipients of the money?

    Problem with EBT's is it isn't just the Huns there's a large percentage of the public sector who were contractors at the time got pulled in by the schemes including some of those who are being asked to rule on them and their friends . It would set a precedence that would cause embarrassment financial and personal to all of these people so just won't happen. The highlighting of the schemes in the media and rhetoric that has followed simply served as a shot across the bows which many have heeded and since removed themselves from the scheme , some haven't and wish to see how it pans out whilst growing their retirement pot ,others have moved onto the next dodge.

    I see the schemes being ruled out but I don't see them going after anyone.

  18. #38
    Hun-dinger of a thread on our Derek on that rainjurz meeja site-take a look.

    Someone should actually send it to Derek himself, just as a reminder....

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by ByeByeScum2012 View Post
    When the appeal is won the stadium should be ceased and everything sold off to repay tax and all creditors as would happen with any other business.
    The appeal against the EBT ruling has nothing to do with the stadium and assets. Assuming the appeal is rejected, it would be the opportunity for hmrc to go after the ebt recipients.

    However. In a separate court case, liquidators BDO are suing administrators Duff & Phelps for selling the assets off too cheaply. Essentially asking why they only got £5m, when a few months later Charles Green claimed the business was worth ten times that in the IPO.

    IF BDO win, and it's a big if, then the assets (stadium etc) could revert to BDO. They then sell them off to pay the creditors. I would laugh long an heartily should that come to pass

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by kb_don View Post
    The appeal against the EBT ruling has nothing to do with the stadium and assets. Assuming the appeal is rejected, it would be the opportunity for hmrc to go after the ebt recipients.

    However. In a separate court case, liquidators BDO are suing administrators Duff & Phelps for selling the assets off too cheaply. Essentially asking why they only got £5m, when a few months later Charles Green claimed the business was worth ten times that in the IPO.

    IF BDO win, and it's a big if, then the assets (stadium etc) could revert to BDO. They then sell them off to pay the creditors. I would laugh long an heartily should that come to pass
    Balls min. Duff and Phelps don't own the assets, and Sevco aren't the ones being sued. If BDO win then Duff and Phelps will be told to stump up cold hard cash, thats all.

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